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A remake of The Medieval Sims
Hello everyone! I wonder if there are those out there who think a remake or an upgrade of The Medieval Sims would be a great Idea. It would be an excellent idea if they could make a better version of the game to make it so fun for medieval theme lovers. Significantly, if they could remake the original sims to better game versions, I'm hoping they can do the same for the medieval one. I'm just pitching the idea out here, hoping it would come true. It might not work out, but it doesn't hurt to pitch in ideas and to say my opinion. I know there could be pros and cons anyone could see, but as someone who's a Sims player and loves medieval games and royal-like role-plays, I think it would be a fantastic idea, especially if there could be different classes in the game. I'm hoping to hear everyone's opinions on this idea.
Persephone_Rose1
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What did simmers do for Halloween?
I have had a fantastic Halloween season and it isn't over yet! Haunts, carving jack-o-lanterns, seeing Halloween decorations, Halloween parties, and another event tonight. I dressed as Barbie on Halloween day from morning til night (until I had to pack my costume for the flight home - but I'm bringing it out again tonight!) We listened to spooky music and watched spooky movies. The Sims 4 Halloween event has been so much fun, too! It has really added to the magic. I have so much loved being friends with Death and doing all of the tasks. It has brought out the bad in my sims which is fun!! Halloween really is the most magical time of year and I am so thankful that I was able to do so much with family and friends. I spent the last week with my family on the beautiful west coast and that is always the best time. I hope that everyone else had a wonderful season as well, and I would love to hear about it!
LaunchSneezes
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Virtual Reality Sims
I think it could be awesome if we could play the Sims in virtual reality. If there isn’t plans to make a virtual reality version of the Sims there should be.
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The Official The Sims Discord Server ( New Contest 10/14)
The official public Discord for the Sims community is launching today! The Discord will feature everything Sims! Competitions, official challenges, developer AMAs (Ask Me Anything), and much more. Some of the included channels: Behind The Sims Featured Simmers Community Tips Gallery Share Mods/CC Support Desk Community Challenges More info here: https://www.ea.com/games/the-sims/news/the-sims-official-discord Join here: https://discord.com/channels/1151759657283629076/@home I will continue posting Sims news here on the forum. Sims on Social Media, Community Pack Giveaways, Community Corner, Sims Freeplay, Sims Mobile and Positive Thoughts Threads. Giveaways will continue to be exclusively for forum members.
simgirl1010
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26 days ago
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How do I find the challenges?
In the old forums I could go to the discussions and find the list of challenges created by simmers. Where do I go now? The hashtag for challenges doesn't really help sort challenges from posts sharing participant screenshots. Anyone on here have any pointers?
Pameler417
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29 days ago
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The sims 1 weird bug
So someone had given me a gift of a plant and i placed it on the table, later on the plant died so i placed it in the bin, but doing it ended up removing my table and any contents that was on the table to, they all just vanished.
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the sims (2000)
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The Sims Shop (New Merchandise October 9)
https://shopthesims.com/password
simgirl1010
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The Sims 5 Ideas
CAS System Make it intelligently create Sims through facial and voiceprint recognition. Make it a discontinuous voice slider (mid-value can be taken). Cancel Simlish and make it a variety of real languages, such as Cantonese, Japanese, Korean, etc. Add more interpersonal titles in family tree, such as uncle, aunt, cousin, father-in-law, brother-in-law, granddaughter-in-law, etc. Aging System Make it eight life stages: baby stage lasts 7 days (newborn stage lasts 1 day, infant stage lasts 2 days, toddler stage lasts 4 days), child stage lasts 7 days, teen stage lasts 14 days, young adult stage lasts 28 days, adult stage lasts 28 days, elder stage lasts 28 days. It is a total of 112 days. Each stage has at most three Zodiac Traits. The baby stage has only one Acquired Trait, the child stage has two Acquired Traits, the other stages have three Acquired Traits. Zodiac and Trait Systems Make it two types of traits: Zodiac Traits and Acquired Traits. The Zodiac Traits can be further divided into three parts, please refer to The Sims 4 Zodiac Traits. The Sims 2 Style Systems Make it a series of The Sims 2 style systems, such as primary and secondary aspirations, slot machine style wants and fears with the meter, good and bad memories, etc. Make each memory have a detailed date. Make The Sims 4 style emotion system. Society System Make it three stages of society: Present Society, Future Society, Ancient Society. Each stage of society matches and restricts its own society functions, clothing styles, goods, house styles and occupations, etc. After every 112 days, the game changes the stage of current society automatically and cycles infinitely. Weather System Make more types of wind: Level 0 is for no wind, Level 1 for gentle wind, Level 2 for strong wind, Level 3 for typhoon. Make petals fall in spring and leaves in autumn, like rain and snow. World System Make it an open world, or not. If it is an open world, make it not The Truman Show. Action System Make Sims have more actions, such as dressing and undressing; opening doors and windows and closing them; taking out dishes, mugs, pans and condiment bottles from cupboards, toothbrushes from cups, umbrellas from umbrella racks, clothes and socks from wardrobes, shoes from shoe cabinet, and putting back them, etc. Sims can take pillows and sheets out of the closet and put them on the ground to sleep and bring them back to the closet, and they can wash and dry them. Cats and birds can walk and sleep on walls. Driving and Medical Systems Players can drive vehicles. Driver Sims can pick up and drop off other Sims. Make vehicles of different capacities accommodate different numbers of Sims. Make traffic accidents allowed. Give Sims the opportunity to fall and be injured from a height. Make ambulances, paramedics, wheelchairs and disabled Sims. Make sick Sims go to hospitals. If it is an infectious disease, Sims can infect each other. Doctor Sims can treat and perform surgeries. Make four types of blood type traits for Sims, or not. Education and Justice Systems Give Sims and events the opportunity to add or change the Acquired Traits of other Sims. Make Sims get skill points by reading, having classes and doing homeworks, etc. Make 1st language and maths classes compulsory in kindergartens, make 1st language, 2nd language and maths classes compulsory in primary and middle schools, make 3rd language and other courses optional in universities except major. Make the number of languages which Sims speak as many as the number of languages supported by The Sims 5. Make 1st language be English. Make 2nd language and 3rd language selectable, such as Cantonese, Japanese, Korean, etc. Sims who can speak foreign languages can communicate with foreign Sims. Sims can sue other Sims. Build System Add half-tile walls and platforms, walls and platforms with a height of 0.125 times, walls and platforms hanging down from the ceiling, buildable prominent window sills, vertical sloping walls and platforms (22.5 degree per rotation), rain gutters, more styles of single-tile sliding doors and functions of rotating objects horizontally and vertically in a discontinuous manner (22.5 degree per rotation). 0 Rabbit Holes Don't make any rabbit holes, such as tree houses, public toilets, tramcars, primary schools and all jobs. Make the interiors of subways, ships, planes, subway stations, seaports and airports visible. Make it at least three classrooms in kindergartens, primary schools, middle schools and universities; the school area can be built as freely as other areas. Add careers as manga artists, voice actors and publishing houses. Make weekly magazines and manga tankobons published; TV dramas, movies, cartoons, MTVs and commercials can be filmed and shown; games can be developed and sold; related consoles and arcades can be played. Objects and Houses Add cabinets in which there are wooden boards engraved with the names of deceased ancestors, foods, drinks, a metal bowl, a candlestick, an incense burner, etc. Sims can offer foods and drinks, light the candle, burn some incense and knock on the metal bowl for their deceased ancestors. Sims can put the wooden boards, foods and drinks in the cabinets or take off them or change them. Add more styles of wind bells, usable telephones, usable hand fans and desk fans. Allow more kinds of objects, like TVs, to be placed on various tables and floors. Make acuum cleaners, brooms, dustpans, mops, buckets, napkins, feather dusters, washing machines and drying racks in the base game. Make houses and clothes more and more dirty after some time even without buying acuum cleaners and washing machines. Make the appearance of a house that is not inhabited for a long time become older and older. Others Except premade households, don't make it automatically generate citizens or NPCs, even if NPC may be not enough. Canceling the cheat system makes the game more fun. Make it The Sims Home Edition for players who don't need cheats and The Sims Professional Edition for players who do need cheats. Cancel the function of easily transferring funds and family members between families. Make players cannot switch family members easily after entering a household. Quit asking players, make us must go to work and school personally with the currently controlled Sim. Cancel the outlines around Sims and objects when the mouse pointer points to them. Make it no longer cause mutual penetration and superposition between Sims. In life mode, expand the first person perspective based on the room size as soon as we enter a room and cancel the wall cutting, while build mode is not affected by this. Don't make any unusable decorations, make smart-phones and calendars be usable objects. Make bookshelves and refrigerators empty to place books and foods one by one. Cancel Game Packs and Kits, make it two Expansion Packs and two Stuff Packs every year for four or eight years. Give Sims the opportunity to have dreams when they fall asleep. Sims can hold funerals. For the ideas of The Sims, The Sims 2, and The Sims 3, please refer to The Sims, The Sims 2, and The Sims 3 Ideas. For the ideas of The Sims 4, please refer to The Sims 4 Ideas.
Yongming828
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The Sims, The Sims 2, and The Sims 3 Ideas
Make another expansion packs for The Sims, The Sims 2, and The Sims 3 to adapt to Windows 7/8/10/11 and include the followings: Aging System Make The Sims contain family trees, elders and the function of aging. Zodiac and Trait Systems Update the existing zodiac system. Make it two types of traits: Zodiac Traits and Acquired Traits. The Zodiac Traits can be further divided into three parts, please refer to The Sims 4 Zodiac Traits. The Sims 2 Style Systems Make The Sims and The Sims 3 contain a series of The Sims 2 style systems, such as primary and secondary aspirations, slot machine style wants and fears with the meter, good and bad memories, etc. Make each memory have a detailed date. Emotion System Make The Sims, The Sims 2, and The Sims 3 contain The Sims 4 style emotion system. Season and Weather Systems Make The Sims contain seasons. Make more types of wind: Level 0 is for no wind, Level 1 for gentle wind, Level 2 for strong wind, Level 3 for typhoon. Make petals fall in spring and leaves in autumn, like rain and snow. Build System Add half-tile walls and platforms, walls and platforms with a height of 0.125 times, walls and platforms hanging down from the ceiling, buildable prominent window sills, vertical sloping walls and platforms (22.5 degree per rotation), rain gutters, single-tile sliding doors and functions of rotating objects horizontally and vertically in a discontinuous manner (22.5 degree per rotation). Objects Add cabinets in which there are wooden boards engraved with the names of deceased ancestors, foods, drinks, a metal bowl, a candlestick, an incense burner, etc. Sims can offer foods and drinks, light the candle, burn some incense and knock on the metal bowl for their deceased ancestors. Sims can put the wooden boards, foods and drinks in the cabinets or take off them or change them. Add wind bells, usable hand fans and desk fans. Allow more kinds of objects, like TVs, to be placed on various tables and floors. Others Make players cannot switch family members easily after entering a household. Give Sims the opportunity to have dreams when they fall asleep. Sims can hold funerals. For the ideas of The Sims 4, please refer to The Sims 4 Ideas. For the ideas of The Sims 5, please refer to The Sims 5 Ideas.
Yongming828
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2 months ago
the sims (2000)
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The Sims 5 Zodiac Traits
Make it Zodiac Traits and Acquired Traits. The followings specifically refer to Zodiac Traits. Make it three groups of traits: Sun Traits, Moon Traits, Rising Traits. There are the same 48 traits in all of the groups. Make the season be 7 days and the moon phase cycle be 8 days, just like in The Sims 4. Make each Sun Trait advance once every 14 hours, each Moon Trait advance once every 4 hours, each Rising Trait advance once every 30 minutes in the time system. When a Sim is born, he or she could have three different, or two same and one different, or three same traits. If a Sim has three same traits, then this type of trait of him or her is strong, and so on. Astrologers can give Sims good blind dates or bad ones. There are three sets of 48 types of actions for Sims. The first set is for Sims who have three different traits, and they have three types of actions from this set according to what traits they have. The actions in the first set are weak. The second set is for Sims who have two same and one different traits, and they have two types of actions from this and the first set according to what traits they have. The actions in the second set are average. The third set is for Sims who have three same traits, and they have only one type of action from this set according to what traits they have. The actions in the third set are strong. 01. Pisces-Aries Cusp Rebirth 02. Aries I. Child 03. Aries II. Star 04. Aries III. Pioneer 05. Aries-Taurus Cusp Power 06. Taurus I. Manifestation 07. Taurus II. Teacher 08. Taurus III. Natural 09. Taurus-Gemini Cusp Energy 10. Gemini I. Freedom 11. Gemini II. New Language 12. Gemini III. Seeker 13. Gemini-Cancer Cusp Magic 14. Cancer I. Empath 15. Cancer II. Unconventional 16. Cancer III. Persuader 17. Cancer-Leo Cusp Oscillation 18. Leo I. Authority 19. Leo II. Balanced Strength 20. Leo III. Leadership 21. Leo-Virgo Cusp Exposure 22. Virgo I. System Builders 23. Virgo II. Enigma 24. Virgo III. Literalist 25. Virgo-Libra Cusp Beauty 26. Libra I. Perfectionist 27. Libra II. Society 28. Libra III. Theater 29. Libra-Scorpio Cusp Drama & Criticism 30. Scorpio I. Intensity 31. Scorpio II. Depth 32. Scorpio III. Charm 33. Scorpio-Sagittarius Cusp Revolution 34. Sagittarius I. Independence 35. Sagittarius II. Originator 36. Sagittarius III. Titan 37. Sagittarius-Capricorn Cusp Prophecy 38. Capricorn I. Ruler 39. Capricorn II. Determination 40. Capricorn III. Dominance 41. Capricorn-Aquarius Cusp Mystery Imagination 42. Aquarius I. Genius 43. Aquarius II. Youth & Ease 44. Aquarius III. Acceptance 45. Aquarius-Pisces Cusp Sensitivity 46. Pisces I. Spirit 47. Pisces II. Loner 48. Pisces III. Dancers & Dreamers It's simple for playing with only 12 traits of Sun Signs (12 months of Earth's orbit), while it's complicated for playing with 366 traits of Sun Signs (366 days of Earth's orbit), Moon Signs (366 periods of Moon's orbit), Mercury Signs (366 periods of Mercury's orbit), Venus Signs (366 periods of Venus's orbit), Mars Signs, Jupiter Signs, Saturn Signs, and Rising Signs. Let's play with only 48 traits of only Sun Signs (48 weeks of Earth's orbit), Moon Signs (48 periods of Moon's orbit), and Rising Signs. For The 48 Periods, please refer to Personology (by Gary Goldschneider). Alchemists can change objects into coins or into trash. A small-sized bronze coin is for 1 simoleon, silver coin for 5 simoleons, gold coin for 10 simoleons; a medium-sized bronze coin is for 50 simoleons, silver coin for 100 simoleons, gold coin for 500 simoleons; a large-sized bronze coin is for 1,000 simoleons, silver coin for 5,000 simoleons, gold coin for 10,000 simoleons. Sims can pick up coins from the ground and deposit them in a bank, a piggy bank, and a strong box. When Sims are going to use simoleons in African, European, Asian cities, they must change them into African, European, Asian dollars. The exchange rate fluctuates every day. For another edition of The Sims traits, please refer to The Sims Traits. For the other ideas of The Sims 5, please refer to The Sims 5 Ideas.
Yongming828
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2 months ago
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The Sims, The Sims 2, and The Sims 3 Zodiac Traits
Make another expansion packs for The Sims, The Sims 2, and The Sims 3 to update the existing zodiac system. Make it Zodiac Traits and Acquired Traits. The followings specifically refer to Zodiac Traits. Make it three groups of traits: Sun Traits, Moon Traits, Rising Traits. There are the same 48 traits in all of the groups. Make the season be 7 days and the moon phase cycle be 8 days, just like in The Sims 4. Make each Sun Trait advance once every 14 hours, each Moon Trait advance once every 4 hours, each Rising Trait advance once every 30 minutes in the time system. When a Sim is born, he or she could have three different, or two same and one different, or three same traits. If a Sim has three same traits, then this type of trait of him or her is strong, and so on. Astrologers can give Sims good blind dates or bad ones. There are three sets of 48 types of actions for Sims. The first set is for Sims who have three different traits, and they have three types of actions from this set according to what traits they have. The actions in the first set are weak. The second set is for Sims who have two same and one different traits, and they have two types of actions from this and the first set according to what traits they have. The actions in the second set are average. The third set is for Sims who have three same traits, and they have only one type of action from this set according to what traits they have. The actions in the third set are strong. 01. Pisces-Aries Cusp Rebirth 02. Aries I. Child 03. Aries II. Star 04. Aries III. Pioneer 05. Aries-Taurus Cusp Power 06. Taurus I. Manifestation 07. Taurus II. Teacher 08. Taurus III. Natural 09. Taurus-Gemini Cusp Energy 10. Gemini I. Freedom 11. Gemini II. New Language 12. Gemini III. Seeker 13. Gemini-Cancer Cusp Magic 14. Cancer I. Empath 15. Cancer II. Unconventional 16. Cancer III. Persuader 17. Cancer-Leo Cusp Oscillation 18. Leo I. Authority 19. Leo II. Balanced Strength 20. Leo III. Leadership 21. Leo-Virgo Cusp Exposure 22. Virgo I. System Builders 23. Virgo II. Enigma 24. Virgo III. Literalist 25. Virgo-Libra Cusp Beauty 26. Libra I. Perfectionist 27. Libra II. Society 28. Libra III. Theater 29. Libra-Scorpio Cusp Drama & Criticism 30. Scorpio I. Intensity 31. Scorpio II. Depth 32. Scorpio III. Charm 33. Scorpio-Sagittarius Cusp Revolution 34. Sagittarius I. Independence 35. Sagittarius II. Originator 36. Sagittarius III. Titan 37. Sagittarius-Capricorn Cusp Prophecy 38. Capricorn I. Ruler 39. Capricorn II. Determination 40. Capricorn III. Dominance 41. Capricorn-Aquarius Cusp Mystery Imagination 42. Aquarius I. Genius 43. Aquarius II. Youth & Ease 44. Aquarius III. Acceptance 45. Aquarius-Pisces Cusp Sensitivity 46. Pisces I. Spirit 47. Pisces II. Loner 48. Pisces III. Dancers & Dreamers It's simple for playing with only 12 traits of Sun Signs (12 months of Earth's orbit), while it's complicated for playing with 366 traits of Sun Signs (366 days of Earth's orbit), Moon Signs (366 periods of Moon's orbit), Mercury Signs (366 periods of Mercury's orbit), Venus Signs (366 periods of Venus's orbit), Mars Signs, Jupiter Signs, Saturn Signs, and Rising Signs. Let's play with only 48 traits of only Sun Signs (48 weeks of Earth's orbit), Moon Signs (48 periods of Moon's orbit), and Rising Signs. For The 48 Periods, please refer to Personology (by Gary Goldschneider). Alchemists can change objects into coins or into trash. A small-sized bronze coin is for 1 simoleon, silver coin for 5 simoleons, gold coin for 10 simoleons; a medium-sized bronze coin is for 50 simoleons, silver coin for 100 simoleons, gold coin for 500 simoleons; a large-sized bronze coin is for 1,000 simoleons, silver coin for 5,000 simoleons, gold coin for 10,000 simoleons. Sims can pick up coins from the ground and deposit them in a bank, a piggy bank, and a strong box. When Sims are going to use simoleons in African, European, Asian cities, they must change them into African, European, Asian dollars. The exchange rate fluctuates every day. For another edition of The Sims traits, please refer to The Sims Traits. For the other ideas of The Sims, The Sims 2, and The Sims 3, please refer to The Sims, The Sims 2, and The Sims 3 Ideas.
Yongming828
Seasoned Observer
2 months ago
the sims (2000)
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Redo of some sim games
I know they’re working on Sims 5 but can we please please get a remake of Castaway bay? I liked how we got to explore and building the hut and finding things
eichelberger85
Seasoned Newcomer
2 months ago
project rene
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Project Renee/Future of Sims
It was very disappointing to hear that there won’t be a Sims 5. I just don’t understand where this is all heading. Project Renee just looks like another sims game but not an UPGRADED one. I believe we need another Sims game but this time it needs to be better than all the other games. It needs to have something from all the games otherwise what’s the point? In my opinion The Sims 4 is so incredibly boring. It’s a cash grab and if anything the game is actually just a building simulator. Also, not making a newer, better game because of this reasoning- “we would hate to make players start over” is just pathetic and lazy. We have said for so long that we need something like The Sims 3, the Sims 2 and most definitely not another boring cash grab Sims 4 but me and many others see that our pleads and our suggestions aren’t being heard. For me if the new Sims game isn’t better than all of the other ones then I’m done. Im going to just play and devote my time to InZoi and Paralives. Those developers seem to actually want to listen to the player base. I’ve been a Sims fan ever since Sims 2 came out. I’ve played all of the Nintendo games, the PlayStation games and after I got a PC I started playing Sims 3 then the Sims 2. I saw and experienced how much better the other games were despite them being older. Im sorry for this being a negative post but, if it’s not then are you guys ever going to listen?
Tinyfishy24
Seasoned Newcomer
2 months ago
project rene
the sims (2000)
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Perfect The Sims 5 Base Game
When I first time played the base game of The Sims 2, I was so excited and happy, because I've been thought that almost all the functions of The Sims and its expansion packs are in the base game of The Sims 2. Please make the future base games of The Sims franchise contain every basic and important function and object as much as possible. Not many, but at least one.
Yongming828
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My perfect Sims 5
Over the past years the Sims has been around there have been concepts that Maxis & EA have gotten right and instances they got it very, very wrong. So this post is about examples of things I would love from past iterations of the Sims (and a few ideas for improvements) to be in the Sims 5. I had to separate and add in the comments suggested Gardening plants as well as Cooking & Baking recipes. I have also added things id like to see for sims 5 that aren't apart of any game so far. THIS IS A LONG MULTI-COMMENT POST. SCROLL THROUGH AND ADD YOUR COMMENTS & SUGGESTIONS. NOTE: I PLACED LISTS FOR COOKING, BAKING AND BEVERAGE RECIPE SUGGESTIONS BEHIND SPOILERS. I ALSO DID THIS FOR LISTS OF PLANTS & TATTOOS Table of Contents Section 1 - Things I loved about Past Packs Section 2 - Sims 5 Suggestions Overview Section 3 - CAS Section 4 - Skills, Chores, Butler Chores, Grade School through University Education & Careers Section 5 - Interactions Section 6 - Cooking, Canning, Candy Making & Compound Butter Section 7 - Beverages - The Basics, Juicing, Mixology & Nectar Making Section 8 - Baking Section 9 - Gardening, Harvestables, Flower Arranging and Landscaping Section 10 - Neighborhoods & Community Lots Section 11 - Build Section 12 - Buy - Full Room Categories Section 13 - Buy Items Section 14 - Seasons, Climate, Temperature, Lunar Cycle, Holidays & Special Events Section 15 - Occults - Vampires, Witches, Fortune Tellers & Familiars, Ghosts, Fairies, & Werewolves Section 16 - Pets - Cats, Dogs, Birds, Horses, Unicorns and NPC Animals Section 17 - Radio Stations, Potential Songs & Music in General Section 18 - Club, Team & Tattoo Icon Suggestions Section 19 - NPC's - Couldn't Enjoy the Game Without Them Section 20 - Item Upgrade Suggestions Section 21 - Travel & Adventures - World Zones to Explore - Part 1 Hotels, Reservation System & Amenities Basic Hotel Build & Buy Room Service & Menu Customization Amusement Parks Camping, Forested Mountain Region Casino Egypt Ski Chalet, Patterned after St. Moritz, Switzerland The Caribbean - Jamaica & Haiti The Islands - Hawaii & Polynesia China Japan Greece Section 20 - Travel & Adventures - World Zones to Explore - Part 2 France Italy Section 21 - Rabbit Holes VS Open Lots Section 22 - Moodlets & Lot Traits Sims 1 The whimsy The creative NPC's - especially the roving musician from the restaurant, the organ grinder guy with monkey, the saxophonist, the obsessed fan all of these NPC's had flavor and enhanced the areas they were in The Superstar neighborhood I liked its general feel. http://media.gamingexcellence.com/screenshots/the-sims-superstar/1508.jpg The Cake Dancer The Ice Cream Parlor & The Candy Store with all the associated Build/Buy pieces to make it work https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8b/86/33/8b863324cb5cba858b637a2c91822c94.jpg http://playmap.ru/uploads/posts/2016-10/1475516282_12.jpg Sims 2 The best details in terms of the Sim's involuntary actions (like shielding the eyes in bright sun). More small details like this would be great The memory system The Attraction System - Turn Ons, Turn Offs They can do basically the same ones http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/sims/images/8/8e/TurnOnsOffs.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100223013105 The Western Zodiac https://sumukhastro.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/blogs-Banner-v214-Western-Astrology.jpg The cut scenes for huge life events The traits seemed to have more impact like messy Sims didn't make their beds Setting climates for each neighborhood so they made sense The had the best functioning hotels - TBH Island Living had a nice resort system too but it was so late in the game and would have been better than the hostels in WA. Hotel Desk, Locking Doors, Maid Service, Concierge activities, Room service, shuttle service Stable restaurants - Family could have job positions, plus the table interactions, the roving musician The Hair Salon Pet Jobs The Upright Piano for smaller homes. Love, Love, Love the grand pianos but some house builds require something smaller https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d5/fc/ca/d5fcca6a5b8a732ce1fdc975e2fdc673.jpg The Newspaper The Paperboy/Girl Births & Obits The Crossword Puzzle Engagement & Wedding Announcements The Horoscope The Chasing of paperboy/girl by dog Interests - Sims Child through Adult and dogs and Cats all had interests appropriate to them Bon Voyage - Camping area activities http://www.kritikanstvo.ru/games/s/sims2bonvoyage/images/sims2bonvoyage_pc_507503.jpg https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/sims/images/3/3e/Log_Rolling.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/350?cb=20100314110351 Bon Voyage - The Zen Garden Purchasing jewelry The Hobbies and their enthusiasm - can work with clubs but the enthusiasm was a nice touch Pet Store - Grooming Tub, Trainer, the actual store assets Parrots, Cockatoos - Training them and getting them to speak and giving them treats The cage for the smaller birds was the best the Sims has ever done The 3 universities instead of two Juicing The Carpool, the Bus for kids - you could even see the driver honking The garden judging for the garden club The Private schools - (different uniforms, types of schools and their bonuses) and the Headmaster scenario because a level of difficulty in order to get into private schools should be there. The witch alignments (neutral, good, bad, very good, Very evil) Retail experience was better, you could even see simoleans changing hands, the changing rooms, the generic radio stations, Car Lots - where you can purchase automobiles Sims 2 had the best weddings (only because Sims 4 messed up their wedding pack) and you could plan for a honeymoon that a Limousine took you to. http://davidchess.com/pictures/sims2_a/JaneS_Martin_limo.jpg Chess Tournaments those need a comeback The Jump Rope, Exercise Bike and Chin up Bar http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131211021513/sims/es/images/thumb/2/27/LS2_Hobbies_32.jpg/500px-LS2_Hobbies_32.jpg https://i.ytimg.com/vi/W-6AsJind0Y/hqdefault.jpg The functional garage doors for gasp! garages and driveways The fabulous awning tool and the Wrought Iron and Glass Awning from Apartment Life Playing Marco Polo in the pool Tai-Chi and Mahjong http://www.gameguru.in/images/sims-2-bon-voyage-ss4.jpg Tea ceremony Sewing and Pottery Making https://static.miraheze.org/simswiki/thumb/7/7a/Hobby_Arts_and_Crafts.jpg/670px-Hobby_Arts_and_Crafts.jpg http://www.4gamer.net/games/046/G004615/SS/004.jpg Trimming bushes, pulling weeds - The Gardener had more to do Writing Books - The process was far more clever where you could pick amongst thought bubbles and sort of figure out what the book was about Bird watching from Free Time https://s.getwinpcsoft.com/screenshots/10/10006_1.png The Yo-Yo & Juggling https://static.taigame.org/image/screenshot/201304/the-sims-2-freetime-15.jpg The Lemonade stand https://static.miraheze.org/simswiki/a/aa/TS2OFB_Gallery_29.jpg The Skunk, The Raccoon and most importantly the Alpha Wolf The different greetings for the different social groups Tuning Instruments Winding the grandfather clock and it chimes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRCpMGiWzVY&t=13s The food contests http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/21400000/TS2-FreeTime-the-sims-2-freetime-21459082-500-383.jpg The Putting green http://www.igropoisk.com/files/screen/6106/1.jpg The Elevator Build pieces http://thumbs.modthesims2.com/img/3/0/2/5/7/2/MTS_Yogi-Tea-1263144-3-playtest.jpg Being able to see and change the style of ceilings Sims 3 Open World Color Wheel - and more channels to choose for color and patterns https://graf1x.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/color-wheel-poster.jpg CAS Hair color being divided by root, shaft and ends Create a Pattern The Gorgeous neighborhoods - the detail work and variety of the neighborhoods was the best its been in Sims 3 Cemeteries Weather, Temperature and Seasons - Only better than Sims 4 because it has Fog, Hail and Deep Snow The Moon cycle The Town Center where the Seasonal festivals were held. They were better than all the fairs Sims 4 had Generations & Supernatural almost everything was perfect. The Vampires were better in Sims 4 though The Fairies & Werewolves https://wallpapercave.com/wp/wp2234654.jpg https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-mP1V4D49XnI/WBD_nr6xB2I/AAAAAAAABtM/i6McnDqvtog0aPvwSTBP6KRcYSCA1w7HwCLcB/s1600/Sims-3-Supernatural-Download-For-Free.jpg World Adventures - (minus the hostels, See Sims 2 Hotels), the adventure aspect was great fun, the countries were gorgeous, camels in Egypt was a missed opportunity, the mummy, Archeologist as a career was also a missed opportunity Nectar Making was excellent in World Adventure. I'd even keep the grape varietals https://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/sims/images/2/2e/Skill_nectar_making_in_motion.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120212072002 Vacation Homes Cars - the car alarm, the radio, setting ownership, teaching teens to drive, parking "wink", Parking Spaces The Ice Cream Man - I don't mind the food stalls I just dont want them in place of proper bricks and mortar lots https://simsvip.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Screenshot-911.jpg Horses, Horseback Riding, the Horse barns and Unicorns http://www.capsulecomputers.com.au/wp-content/gallery/the-sims-3-pets/the_sims_3_pets_screenshot_07.jpg http://www.gametactics.com/wp-content/gallery/the-sims-3-pets-xbox-360/ts3pets_pc_unicorns.jpg https://simsvip.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Screenshot-25.jpg The Rabbit-holes - But ONLY for specific places and the actual buildings must be shown - Town Hall & Courthouse, Military Base but not the obstacle course, The High school, The Private Schools, The Warehouse, The Volcano Base, The University classrooms but not the Student center or labs and lecture hall. The Office Building, The Hospital, The interior of the Equestrian center but not the obstacle course, The Fortune Teller's Caravan ((I loved the music), The Science Lab and Observatory, the police station, The movie theatre but not the lobby The Mermaids were better in terms of playability based on all the cool dive spots and the hidden island Firefighters and the firehouse Police, Burglars, Burglar alarms Being able to swim in almost all bodies of water Skating on frozen lake Scuba Diving including deep diving. Sims 4 cheaped out on this to their shame. https://www.simsnieuws.nl/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/SNReviewEEduiken15.jpg The Deer - Would be a great come back for forested area along with the wolves. In general areas are better with animals. http://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/37300000/Cannibal-Deer-the-sims-3-37370392-1024-768.jpg Martial Arts - The different belt colors, the sparring, the equipment, the martial arts school. All wonderful https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-tax9SIx2nDM/UxFYjFX7KmI/AAAAAAAAAxs/HiwQSwq2lwg/s1600/Screenshot-14.jpg The Snake Charming - Needs a comeback in the next desert area http://img.cinemablend.com/cb/c/d/1/2/b/a/cd12ba6d2285b7da9013103816a0cfb9973b6efff10dbe6e48f05f92989c3651.jpg The Scooters from World Adventure - Motorcycles too http://assets2.ignimgs.com/2009/11/17/the-sims-3-world-adventures-20091117014958735-3058414.jpg Gem cutting http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120920135428/sims/images/2/2a/Gemcutter.png The Subways & the Lightning Leap Atomic Molecular Arranger that bear a striking resemblance to the TARDIS https://i.pinimg.com/originals/26/36/c7/2636c7d57d1741d0bd3d185f240c983a.jpghttp://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/sims/images/e/e1/Subway.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140705032739 https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8177/7965649162_ddfa186ecf.jpg The cleverly named scholarships for university Houseboats, watercraft and boats of all kinds The Magic Store https://i.pinimg.com/originals/31/d7/fa/31d7fa790cb3cb65e368eac0947e3b48.jpg Doorbells and changing their chime Pool Tables and their associated hidden skill and the tricks The Life Skills Books - Fire Safety, Parenting, etc. Trick O'Treat http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8326/8109720384_eeb66e4573.jpg Elders using canes https://64.media.tumblr.com/4b60ea7f0b63c643861654db5e1ebc56/tumblr_ojbk8rwmtI1tvhlnwo3_r1_1280.jpg Bands http://www.instant-gaming.com/images/products/81/screenshot/81-3.jpg https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/8c3c138f96c4e9c026c5aa1abf5282a3-1200-80.jpg The Showtime Magicians http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-9vuJKN6aJKE/T17Etz5BIrI/AAAAAAAAEm0/k2EoQabFY3M/s1600/The+Sims+3+Showtime+THUMB01.jpg The bachelor parties with the dancers https://www.gamingdragons.com/images/game_img/screenshots/Sims3Generations/ss_e0426df5f65967c1e562d1e2b4ccd8219632e7be.1920x1080.jpg Flowers and allergies during the spring months Being also to change flame color in fireplaces https://sciencenotes.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/flamecolors.png Setting color and intensity for lights a detail Sims 4 has as well Doorbells and being able to change the chime Spiral stairs, Modular staircases, Grand Staircases, Sliding down banisters Composting The Greenhouse Glass Roof - I actually like this roof for Grand conservatories and solariums in mansions. I like the basic Sims 2 version for small homes http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-idQ4mDZ3ICE/UKUt7zkFmrI/AAAAAAAACRA/SYddcI0PBO4/s1600/Screenshot-7.jpg https://www.thesimsresource.com/scaled/2250/w-920h-690-2250959.jpg The Festival Items Apple Bobbing Tub Eating Contests Face Painting Booth Food Stalls Honorable Mention - The Strong Man Game from I think Freeplay Kissing Booth Love Tester Photo Booth https://i.imgur.com/YRmMie3.png http://www.simtimes.de/screens/sims3-jahreszeiten/diesims3_jahreszeiten_021.jpg https://www.hookedgamers.com/images/4778/the_sims_3_seasons/screenshot_pc_the_sims_3_seasons007.jpg https://gamingbolt.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/ts3_seasons_spring_eatingcontest.jpg https://gidofgames.com/uploads/posts/2017-11/1510691181_screenshot-4-the-sims-3-seasons.jpg Prom https://www.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/gamespot/images/2011/124/reviews/1705518-626241_20110505_002.jpg The Ghost's differing colors & Ghost Hunting http://www.gametactics.com/wp-content/gallery/the-sims-3-supernatural-add-on-pc/ts3_supernatural_ghostshauntedhouse.jpg http://thumbs.modthesims2.com/img/2/1/8/9/6/0/1/MTS_Kolipoki-1126059-GhostCatch.jpg Sims 2 & 3 had better pet gear https://live.staticflickr.com/6189/6062167170_f546595d96_b.jpg https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5a/cc/0a/5acc0a4668914e383a3dc63780faa4ff.png Sketching, Sculpture work, Glassblowing, Photography https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/sims/images/9/92/AmbitionsScreenshot2.png/revision/latest?cb=20100302223231 http://na.lvlt.sims3store.cdn.ea.com/u/f/sims/sims3/sims3store/objects/jewelryWorkbench_classic/Thumbnail_688x336.jpg The Tattoo Shop https://www.simtimes.de/bilder/2010/05/angespielt-sims3-traumkarrieren-tattoos-656x375.jpg The achievements for skills and collecting beyond getting skill level 10 The Amusement park - It was a good lot. To make it really awesome it would have had to had a ferris wheel and more Midway games http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-5_yRgoBoSdA/UqpudryTAVI/AAAAAAAAMWE/Yw2z0O-nLBw/s1600/Screenshot-12.jpg The Geisha Statuette from the Sims 3 store. Not that I want this item back per se (Although I wouldn't complain about it) more that I liked the detail. https://i.pinimg.com/originals/0c/1d/82/0c1d82a6463007cf4f5656e55ff74ae5.png Sims 4 The Vampire Pack - The vampire were superior to past vampires from everything to their powers and weaknesses, the detail stuff like making garlic wreaths and chains and bringing back the coffins and other tropes from folklore and the movies. I even love the Bleh! Seriously if they had the cape thing Bela Lugosi did I'd love it all the more. I would have loved it if they had brought back the Vampire specific Eclipsing Fog from Sims 3 but I would have had that fog protect the vampires in daylight. https://images.sftcdn.net/images/t_app-cover-l,f_auto/p/b17aa0d4-99eb-11e6-8ee3-00163ed833e7/47541037/the-sims-3-seasons-screenshot.png The Veterinary Clinic - Illnesses and injuries Holidays, Event Planning, Holiday Traditions all were fabulous - Do that again Loved the clubs those were great The variety of fairs and cultural festivals - Sims 3 did the seasonal festivals better by far but variety is the spice of life and exploring other cultures is quite fun. The food selections were good and adding them to the potential restaurant menus was a good idea Separating Cooking from Baking - Baking should have been a base game skill. The Restaurant Menu - this was a nice touch. It just needed to be tweaked so courses came out properly. Being able to add to the menu and setting it to create restaurants with different cuisine is always the right thing. Lot Traits - I hope in future they have strong impacts for lots this can help make visiting different lots more unique. Hats separate from hair The Voice Modulation Spa Day was great - Everything about it was fabulous ESPECIALLY after you added Manicures and Pedicures. https://simsvip.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/18706277654_7ab4a4fdcc_o.png Setting the holiday decorations for the outside with the little decoration box Setting the phones ring tone Trimming the Tree The multiple outfits one can plan in the different types of clothing The Pipe Organ. Love, Love, Love it! In future it needs pipe build pieces for really grand builds. And to play http://sims-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/pipe-organ.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erXG9vnN-GI The walk styles The Familiars Fabulous Idea I just wish they could do more https://www.gamersdecide.com/sites/default/files/authors/u154843/0001.jpg Hiking The Water effects - ducks, reeds, bugs etc. The Skating Rink - I love setting up the lights, effects and music. Cooking the grand meal for holidays. I'd definitely keep that but maybe add to it with international dishes over time Rock Climbing Scouting & Scouting Badges https://www.carls-sims-4-guide.com/gamepictures/expansionpacks/seasons/scouting-career/scout-uniforms.jpg Snowy Escape - The Winter Sports - would have been better in a European Ski Town. So that the Japanese aspects could have been better Snowy Escape - The Bath House, Kotatsu, the hot pot The mermaids were better in the Sims 4 because of their new powers. They were also somewhat prettier https://simscommunity.info/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/TS4_x64-2019-06-20-18-36-19-1320x742.png Snorkeling - I think it had its place WITH Scuba not in place of it. The sub sections of career paths Setting the table The holiday themed door mats. I love doormats and change mine often for the time of year or for holidays https://sims4downloads.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/1733.jpg The Holiday Garland and the mistletoe Patchy the Straw-man - I love that the Sims 3 version had him doing silly dances and scared Sims https://simsvip.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/07-02-18_7-42-50-AM.png Pet clothing https://i.pinimg.com/originals/7b/ed/f2/7bedf2e75412de88aa7c9277a0645efb.png Knitting, and the needle point https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-98k4S1URlQE/XxDC_ToVHvI/AAAAAAAAAn8/9pIPj3ar6C8hSyBV_B0AhO1_WCA8UO_1ACLcBGAsYHQ/s1422/niftyknittingsims4.JPG The bird feeder I would have given the clean interaction because birds love to poop on their feeders. Also they are making feeders now that have little string lights on the inside of it ran by solar power. Glows at night. I liked the vacuums and dust as a concept. The execution just needed work. The Snowy Thunderstorm, Monsoons, Acid Rain https://i.imgur.com/hfaSppg.png
Redrogue60
Seasoned Hotshot
2 months ago
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Where have the old (now Read Only) forums gone?
Have been trying to find a link to the old Sims forums site (to link an old story thread to a new one), but when I type in the address I had for it into my search, it now only brings up the new forums site. Have tried typing everything I can think of that used to bring up the link, but nothing is bringing up the old forums. Has the old forum site been deleted? I understood that it was going to remain online but just as 'read only.' It would have been nice to just be able to look back on it as an archive. Just wondered if anyone else is having the same trouble? (Also why have most of the avatars turned into silhouettes?)
WhatCobblers
Seasoned Vanguard
2 months ago
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How about redirecting dead 5 resources to 3 revival and fixing?
Just that. The Store is right there still operating like the economic, legal tender and royalbovine. Waiting to keep going and pick up where it left off. The next iteration doesn't have one of those does it eh? Eh? And, and and and and, we have the biggest demographic. The greys. We far outnumber the others. The thanks they (3 creators) and we ought to get with the run-on computer sales created when everyone was like "I need more RAM!" and others were like "graphics card! processor!"...just more more more ahhhh! My son, who does some kind of computer science says its not the graphics card, or the RAM, and didn't say what, but then my brother who doesn't do anything says its the RAM ... anyway, everyone got bigger and better computers because of it. And then it needed all o' those mods ... does it really need all of them? They did make too many babies and divorce, cheat and leave town and what not too much before nraas SP, and then there's the times they get stuck at the diner in Riverview and under the foundations at La Simla China. Things like that got sorted by patches in Sims 2 though. I wonder why not in 3. I will get back to my study ... But first. I'm serious! I don't know how this works online I've only done a paper one 20 years ago. Someone else is welcome to set it up :) Maybe they have a checklist that mobilises resources like that, similar to when surveying a disaster zone, but instead of directing them to that other one, if enough show interest with a petition, within the checklist time period, they might send it, the time, money, people and effort, our way, to 3. Revive and fix 3! New Expansion for 3 with an extra-attentive patch! And a BBS. [CM - Edited for removal of petition discussion]
DivinylsFan
New Traveler
2 months ago
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Re-Uploading all your old SIMS CD KEYS to EA?
IF The SIMS decides to do conjoined worlds, to allow SIMS2 Worlds to exist beside SIMS 4 Worlds, etc. I would like an option with our EA accounts to enter the CD KEYS from older versions and the CD Keys for all the DLCs so we do not have to re-purchase. We have an entire bookshelf here of SIMS titles and all the DLCs. I think we even have our four copies of SIMS ONLINE still.
ttuthill
New Traveler
2 months ago
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A Sims Movie? What Would Entice You to Watch?
A Sims Movie is in the works. With the Sims being as open ended as it is, it's hard to guess what the movie would be about. They've confirmed that it's going to be live action, not Sims 4 art style CG, but that still leaves a lot of room for conjecture. I've made a list of possible features. Which of these would spark your interest in the film? Which would turn you off? What features have I missed? A focus on Sims Lore (e.g. the central plot revolving around Bella's disappearance in Sims 2) Some references to Sims lore (e.g. including pre-mades as supporting characters).THIS HAS BEEN CONFIRMED: Freezer Bunny is coming to the big screen. The central character realizes that their world is an idealized simulation and must learn to navigate the real world (e.g. Barbie) The central character realizes that their world is a bad simulation and escapes to the real world (e.g. Truman Show) The central character realizes that their world is a simulation and uses this knowledge to achieve a goal of some sort (e.g. Free Guy) The central character is a human who is transported into the game (e.g. Tron) The central character goes on a Wizard of Oz style journey through the different worlds in the Sims 4 in search of . . . something. This could be combined with options 4, 5 or 6. Maybe the character is in search of a way out. Maybe the character is in search of a cheat code that will solve some problem that they have. The central character must save their world and their loved ones from imminent destruction by game-breaking bugs (e.g. the Langoliers). A focus on a particular play style (e.g. romance play, family play, level-up skills/career play) A focus on a particular pack. THIS HAS BEEN RULED OUT
BissenNess
Seasoned Hotshot
2 months ago
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My Ideas for The Sims 5/Project Rene
A letter for EA Games and their Chairman: I have made several petitions detailing how the company of EA Games is to be run. Most of the petitions of mine you have not followed, I shall give you one last chance. For The Sims 5 (or Project Rene), here's the demands: Don't make the game online only. It makes the game impossible to mod. Plus simmers want to mod the game like previous games. I will allow premade households, as long as they are playable. These premade households must (but not only) include: Goth family (with adults as Victor and Gretle Goth, with Frida and Gunther Goth as their children) Crumplebottom family (with adults as Simon and Prudence Crumplebottom and Cornelia and Agnes Crumplebottom as their children) Bachelor family (with adults as Milton and Enriqueta Bachelor and Simis Bachelor as their child) Williamson family (with adults as Henry and Gina Williamson and Jocasta Williamson as their child) Landgraab family (with adults as Kermit and Kitty Landgraab and Chester Landgraab as their child) Caliente family (with adults as Nestor and Dulcinea Caliente and Tango and Flamenco Caliente as their children) Mango family (with adults as Domingo and Georgia Mango and Katrina Mango as their child) Lothario family (with adults as Carmelo and Mama Lothario and Nicolo Lothario as their child) Fiorello family (with adults as Primo and Isabella Fiorello with Adriana Fiorello as their child) Burb family (with adults as Benjamin and Susan Burb and Brad Burb as their child) Marsh family (with adults as William and Anastasia Marsh and Tiffany Marsh as their child) Pleasant family (with adults as Les and Kynda Pleasant and Jeff Pleasant as their child) Danders family (with adults as Marshall and Melinda Danders and Diane Danders as their child) Oldie family (with adults as Myron and Irma Oldie and Herb Oldie as their child) Ruggbyrne family (with adults as Bruno and Mamie Ruggbyrne and Coral Ruggbyrne as their child) Broke family (with adults as James and Abigail Broke and Flat and Buck Broke as their children) Lincoln family (with adults as George and Elissa Lincoln and Flo Lincoln as their child) Rees family (with adults as Olivier and Jasmine Rees and Mary Lu Rees as their child) Newbie family (with adults as Bob I and Mags Newbie and Bob Newbie II as their child) Simovitch family (with adults as Vadim and Fatima Simovitch and Betty Simovitch as their child) Dreamer family (with adults as Dalmar and Dacia Dreamer and Davis Dreamer as their child) Darong family (with adults as Sef and Lina Darong and Delilah Darong as their child) Matlapin family (with adults as Amar and Isabelle Matlapin and Omar Matlapin as their child) King family (with adults as Henry and Olive King with Mariana King as their child) Those are all in my demands list. I will be watching what you will do with the new game. Should my demands be ignored, a disastrous boycott to the game will occur.
corymach7
Seasoned Newcomer
2 months ago
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