Re: Saber combat: all the tips to become a pro and win (almost) 100% of the time

For anyone who reads this and actually uses these tips. I'd like to point out that number 4 on this list, parrying is actually not an intended feature and a bug which dice left in the game unintentionally like many others. So if you become a parry exploiter like most of the "very skilled" player base, note you are actually exploiting a bug not a feature and it is in fact cheating.

@Bandicoot422Uhm... just that exploiting is in fact not cheating as no 3rd party software is involved here, like hack multitools or macros, and only the official game source is used.

Well, exploiting is surprisingly in fact a violation against EA's code of conduct though the interpretation of the violation grade is obviously difficult, even more how to enforce it.

(Probably only matters for official tournaments that feature EA titles and where exploits are present which are generally frowned upon, like wall-glitching.)

However, let's be real here: This is a homemade problem from the devs and exploiting can hardly be used as an argument to ban someone from a game and EA is well aware of that.

Else we might as well just ban like half of all BF II players, including all youtubers that presented these glitches within their videos as well.

Not to mention that these exploits in Battlefront II specifically might be used by accident (unlike 3rd party software) as well. Same for probably all other EA games.

So to really fix that problem, the devs need to release a patch to adress the exploit spots, period. Any other measure would be one that no one profits from.

So either adapt to these saber exploits or forget about playing saber heroes ever again, as your opponents won't be stopped and won't hesitate to use these exploits against you.

Even if you yourself don't want to use the exploits, you'll still need to adapt to it in some way regardless.

@TRlALONNo need to adapt, it's not exactly hard to parry or not spam swing, ironically the people who abuse parrying are also the people who generally spam swing. So if they were to actually get parried they'd become useless. Of course the people that defend parrying generally use it on players not in the know.

Cheating is defined as "act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage" therefore exploiting a bug intentionally is in fact cheating, just like using the hero glitch so your team gets 3 hero's for an unfair advantage. I guess if both players use it, it is no longer cheating, but using it against unsuspecting players that may or may not know about it when it isn't meant to be present in the game at all is cheating.

There's a bunch of people that think it's ok and abuse it regularly. That's cool, there's plenty of ways to play like an absolute a hole on this game. But posting another topic encouraging it is something else.

If people want to become one of the losers that abuse it then cool, but I'm just informing you that you're cheating, there is no argument against that.

@Bandicoot422Cheating is defined as "act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage"

Lmao, what kind of * definition is that and were did you get that from? By that very far stretched definition, spawncamping or stealing vehicles in Battlefield games would be cheating too. Or explosive camping at objectives. Though the key aspect of cheating/hacking, the 3rd party software, internal scripts etc., is missing.

Anything else is just dependant from the common consideration.

Yeah, keep walking in that dreamland and include exploiting into "cheating", it doesn't change the fact that it's something entirely different to using 3rd party software.

Unless the devs take care of it, you can't really blame anyone else.

Maybe the problem here is simply that there are no private servers where people can set up their own rules what they want to accept or not.

And as you mentioned, these exploits are most effective against people who're unaware of them. Where I play, most people do indeed know, so it's even.

Explaining these exploits in forum topics or youtube videos helps that these "features" will become common knowledge.

Do you rather want that these exploits are a privilege to be known by only few people? That would be completely counterproductive and anti-competitive.

CAN WE NOT TURN THIS THREAD INTO A WAR ZONE????????

@Bandicoot422Dude, did you even read what I wrote in my previous comments? Like also about how certain exploits are dependant from to what degree they're accepted by the playerbase rather as "feature"?

Also the topic was you calling exploiting cheats and how it still doesn't get one banned, not what other kind glitches one personally may like or dislike.

So don't shift topics here and project stuff on me I have never said in that sense. But k, just ignore the rest I said.

The main problem here still stands howver. If someone uses glitches against you, how are you going to react to it? Because neither EA or the anti-cheat software will classify it as hacks for you and thereby enforce a ban.

Just like in BF2015. There's that HvH map for instance where it can happen that some hero player just glitches into the wall to force the match to end in a draw while being an * to his team too because it just gets fed to our remaining heroes as easy kills. So I glitch into the wall too to kill him. I mean, do you have any better idea?

Just let him get away with it so he feels safe and does it again next round?

@soapy_catusesThanks for warming this discussion up again I guess. :/

That's why I don't play online shooting games on pc

Because they have become extremely bad cheating arena's 

 But just to make 1 thing clear it does happen on consoles as well exploiting bad programming 

But not on the same level 

Hey everyone!

I have cleaned up this topic a bit and this will be my only warning before I close the topic. 

Can we keep to the forum rules, respect each other opinion and do not attack or insult each other.

Thank you.

/Atic