@TheManiac2323
Ranked has that penalty.
Pubs is just pubs. I think it is better to quit than being locked in with bad team mates, or team mates who have a dramatically different playstyle --kinda like you describe. It saves a lot of frustration.
@Vdstrk If you don't want frustration there's no fill option made just for this case. Anyone who starts a pub with teammates and plans to do everything on his own right from the start (leaving as soon as he's knocked) deserves a penalty. It doesn't have to be a time penalty but something is necessary to stop this plague.
@Cro_Pittt
Nope. It does not. No fill is if you wanna play solo. I like playing with a team that behaves as a team.
If a player in my team acts randomly, or, say, that player picks my banner up and trolls with respawning, or trolls with rezzing, toxicity, ineptitude, etc, I have the right to leave.
Leaving is also a way to balance the poor job MM does in PUBS.
Having leaver penalty in PUBS is...laughable.
Similarly, if you dislike leavers, play ranked.
If you don't want me to leave the game then stop insta dying, stop playing like a *, stop annoying me, stop landing somewhere dumb, stop spam pinging enemies before anyone has even dropped, etc..
@CCbathwater
One of the reasons I avoid ranked is that I may be locked in with players who are very toxic and bad, and have to stay "or else".
Yes you can mute them. Yes you can report them.
Then we are left with arguing if the game is a team based game or not anymore --given no comms in particular if you mute both the players and their pings.
I have left some games despite having the best loadout ever, in Pubs, because 8 minutes in, they were still looting. I was literally crouched in a spot waiting for the team.....
Or because I was the worse on the team... my team mates were both level 500 and skilled. Clearly it was not my lobby. It was more the time I was there licking the floor then the "help" I would have provided. It was actually me dragging the team down by dying constantly, and clearly they were better off without me. It wasn't fun for me nor them, better move on.
@Vdstrk You said that it's ok to leave if your teammates have different playstyle. I don't see any team play there. Both of you have to adapt to eachother. Of course for every single thing there are exceptions, like you mentioned people trolling or being afk, it's ok to leave in those and other extreme cases . But you do realize that like 80% of trios become duos-solos because when someone gets knocked they leave immediately right? Not even giving a chance to the team to help them. That's solo playing. Leaving immediately because hey who cares, if i win the fight i'm ImperialHal if not my teammates are bad.
Don't get me wrong, i also leave sometimes when i should not to, but i'll gladly accept a penalty because i know it's a bad thing to do. And i'm not asking for a severe penalty. I don't think a 0 xp gained or no challenge progression after leaving is going to affect you badly. It would be a little thing but at least it'd punish some dumb players that act like they are ImperialHal or Rogue.
@BaldWraithSimp Is that a hot dropping zone? Didn't know that lol.
Anyway i'm sticking with my idea. You'll always get some bad teammates, not denying that, but you know most of players leave soon as they get knocked. It happens to me at least 7-8 games out of 10. It's unbelievable and honestly i'm getting tired of it, i just can't have fun on pubs because i'm doing 1v3 most of the times.
@Cro_Pittt
" i'm getting tired of it, i just can't have fun on pubs because i'm doing 1v3 most of the times."
You would have to do 1v3 even if they were to stay. They insta died the first time around, and they will insta die again next fight. So you would be locked in 1v3 again.
that is MM's Fault IMO.
Think from their perspective. They are level 20s tossed in a lobby that is way above their skill at that moment (or forever for what it matters). They are confined to be paper weight in the form of a box/casket.,
@Vdstrk I said before that i do not blame people for leaving in some extreme cases. And no there's no official stats, but seeing my experience, streamers on twitch, and hearing out some friends i can say that it's a common issue.
You said you can't carry newbies. Fair enough, but doing this you'll never give the chance to them to actually improve in the game. How do they feel when they see the third more experienced guy leave just because they are noobs? It's not even their fault, they need time to improve. I actually like playing with newbies and being the IGL with them because usually they listen to the more experienced players. They are not the issue. I'll not blame them simply because they can't shoot, what do you expect lol. If most of the people think like you, then noobs will remain forever noobs because they can't rely on a ingame guide.
@Cro_Pittt
Good point. How do they feel? I do not know. I wish they had comms to begin with, I would have at least heard what they were thinking. That would change the situation from leaving with no hope, to, "they are trying their best, let's see if they can make it"?
Comms are their prerogative. But I cannot jump to conclusions on how they feel based on the absence of any hint about it.
Eh. I cannot say for sure what would they end up being, if they will or not learn the game. There are several resources. Unless I'm specifically asked to share what I do/know, I keep it to myself. And then again, what guarantees are there to say that what I do in game is what is correct?
I'm sorry, but I am not good enough to carry 2 players to victory, how am I expected to be the one teaching them?
@Cro_Pittt
Agree. One game, 2 games, ... .n games. Then enough is enough.
By any means not accusing you of anything. Sorry if you feel that way.
I strongly believe in giving it a try. However, after a bit, you kinda start seeing a pattern.
Like, hot dropping among 7 teams... Try comms, nothing, try pinging another spot, nothing. Press E and drop elsewhere near by, no one follows.
Team mates are insta killed. Out of guilt I go to get their banner and I'm insta killed.
How many times do I need to see this situation happening before it is clear that 90% of the times this happens TO ME, it ends up in frustration? 90% is confidence enough for me to take a chance and leave.
ME SPECIFICALLY. I look around while dropping and tell to what looks like no one that there are n team around. If it is only one or 2 I take my chances, if are like 4 or more, I leave if they do not change where they drop.
Simple answer: fear of losing money.
cheaters don’t buy things and drive people out of games and aren’t as big a percentage of the players. Leavers is likely a huge number of people and some of them do buy quite a lot I imagine.
nothing but my own supposition to back this but I think it’s pretty obvious that after 2 years Apex supports and encourages people to leave any game they want including in ranked.
My advice is instead of hating it, even if it’s terrible sportsmanship, get into it. Leave often. Leave just to leave. Leave when there’s no good reason to.
Maybe if it gets to be a big enough problem Respawn will at least stop giving prizes and rewards to leavers. Or maybe not. Either way, leave, leave and leave again.
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