@BaldWraithSimpWell algs affects me as a viewer. Who doesnt love a comeback story? Why cant teams ride the ring and use heatshields when needed? The guy complaining is someone who prefers early rotations to sit inside buildings and wait. The game changed a bit and now teams that take some late rotation tactics are winning so guess what.....he is crying about it. I cant win change it! Waaaaaaah!
Also my response was also in regards to whether they should just remove them from the game. No, pulling a clutch selfrevive or heat shielding when screwed is fun.
@BaldWraithSimp wrote:
@hayhorSame reason why Lifeline drone doesn't heal you anymore in storm so you can't just sit inside the ring deliberately and call it a 'tactic'. Gold knockdown wasn't removed due to one guy complaining, a lot of people were asking for it.
You could kill one team and turns out one guy has a gold knockdown shield so you miss out on your kills, plus he gets higher positioning if you get attacked while trying to finish that guy. It's a lot different when money is involved, you were referring to algs when you said the rule is dumb. But whaaa, stop whining! I don't see the issue when I play pubs!
The gold knockdown is fun in pubs, it can be really useful at times but in ranked in honestly it's pointless. In ranked regardless of whatever knockdown shield you have you get finished instantly because of KP and it is very very rare that you even get the chance to crawl away to safety let alone self revive yourself.
Also, on the flip side when you do kill an enemy with one, it's well annoying at times that you have to go back out your way to find a kill that person on the floor.
There is no aspect of a gold knockdown that requires any level of skill, it is purely down to luck and luck only.
I don't mind if gold knockdowns go away. Sure, it's really cool and all when you can pull it off. But at its heart it's really a cheese mechanic and, while I don't mind if they stay, I also don't object to its removal.
If I remember correctly, heat shields were causing all sorts of late game issues in high level play.
@Gator762FMJ I was not referring specifically to Hal's post because i know basically most of pros hate gold knockdowns. And i also don't like them because i feel like it is not a skillful feature. You knock the entire team and still it's not enough to kill definitely the squad, and in the meantime you get thirdpartied. Maybe you manage to kill even that team, but then the solo that had a gold knockdown comes back at you and wins the game. It doesn't require any skill to do this and it happened to me multiple times (this usually happens in higher tier lobbies, lower ranks are not a issue). Don't get me wrong though, it's not like i hate them and i'm not saying it ruins the game entirely, but i feel like removing them at least in ranked would improve things.
I agree with all @BaldWraithSimp said. Pros also have the right to whine just like we do here on the forum asking for nerfs/buffs. I don't understand all this hate for them.
@hayhor wrote:
@rockyboy1998Wait you kind of contradicted yourself. You said they are pointless because everyone thirsts right away but then you said you have to find the person with it......so people obviously dont thirst all the time and sometimes it works?
Also it is a BR. All BRs have luck built into them. I really dont see what the issue is with an item that only has an impact 1 in 1000 games. 🤷♂️
Umm, I really didn't.
"it is very very rare that you even get the chance to crawl away to safety"
Stating, that there are situations that you are able to get away. There is zero contradiction LOL!
BR's do have luck, yes. I've just always found the gold knock pointless.
@Gator762FMJ You're missing the fact that in high tier lobbies and tournaments the level is so high that you simply do not have the time to finish your knocks because an instant third party will come. Not always, but it happens quite a lot. I don't think a pro can't deal with a golden knockdown but sometimes is just impossible, hence the "crying".
A way back they were allowed in tournaments and i remember clearly a situation where a solo guy selfrevived and won because the other team got thirdpartied. I suffered with the team that lost lol.
@Gator762FMJ They cry just like everyone else, like you, like me and so on.
I didn't know removing an rng factor makes the game boring lol.
@hayhor No because pros will 99% of the times push the standing team, otherwise they'd not get the possible 3 extra points from the downed squad with the golden knockdown shield.
@BaldWraithSimp Yea i think this conversation will never get us to a shareable point of view 😃.
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