Re: Freezing DX12

@SnakeEyesPC Thanks also for posting a link for my write up much appreciated.

@xOnslaught @SnakeEyesPC I wounder at times if its CPU, video card settings and or programs on the PC making problems with DX12 or a mix of them as I do not get any issues with DX12. As you know from reading my posts @SnakeEyesPC I am sure you have seen how  I am very picky what I allow on my PCs more then most people on line or on AHQ  but I have very stable PCs for it and this all happened due to PC issues. All the freezing others get on DX12 and I do not and this has me thinking more on what is doing it as I don't think its the game at this point or I would have it as well. On my rig the DXR is off in BFV advanced video settings as I choose FPS over the eye candy and in truth I see DXR as broken still in BFV. @xOnslaught so if you have DXR on in advanced video settings in BFV turn it off and see if DX12 still acts up. If you guys want a full write up on the settings I use in BFV I can do it for you. @SnakeEyesPC it kills me you use DX11 and not DX12 I get why you do it but lets at least try to fix this for you, I am more then happy to help you if you want.

With the CPU....

There's this misconception that DirectX 12 is almost entirely GPU focused, it's not, it's almost the complete opposite. With DirectX 11, the CPU could only schedule one task at a time to the GPU so developing a well multi threaded game (for instance BFV ) would make the task list very long and then you run into optimization issues.

With DirectX 12 we now have parallel processing and the CPU is able to schedule multiple tasks for the GPU. The more cores and threads a CPU has, the more parallel capability IF developers optimize for it and they have in BFV.

So my question for both of you can you post your PC specs ?

My specs maybe I don't have it on my new build is due to she is a new / strong PC still I am just trying to rule things out so please post your specs.

CPU - Intel I9 - 9900K Processor <--No OC yet not needed
CPU Cooler - Hydro Series H150i Pro RGB 360mm Liquid CPU Cooler
Motherboard - ROG Maximus XI Extreme <-- not on new bios as Asus bios new ones have more issues/ not stable so on bios 602 old but stable for my ram speeds/ manual OC
RAM - DDR4 G.Skill Trident Z RGB 4266Mhz 32GB <--Manual OC on my ram as XMP was confused and could not do it stable lol was  not going to wast what I paid for with my ram speeds so manual OC to get my 4266 speeds I paid for.
Video Card - ROG Strix OC 1080Ti <---no OC on it yet not needed

@xOnslaught I would still do my steps for the video card as suggested by @SnakeEyesPC it may seem like work but it is worth it if it fixes your game.  On my rigs I don't allow what I call bad programs ..From my write ups on Kernel Base Dll error. Different issue but by the time I got done fixing my buddy's PC he had no more issues in BFV and I removed so many junk / bad programs off him and his freezing stopped on DX12 so I also lean towards programs and settings doing it more then anything at this point..

For all PC's ..Get the G force experience off your rig its pure bloat junk program as well as Realtek HD Audio another bad program making issues go d/l your headset driver, Armoury Crate remove it if its on your rig , and turn off DXR in game its still not working correct and yes it all helps to make this error it seems. Armoury Crate is only supported by Coffelake models. 

Source..  https://answers.ea.com/t5/Technical-Issues/Fixed-on-2-PC-W-I9-9900K-Kernallbase-dll-error-BFV-I-hope-one/m-p/7771083/highlight/false#M11878

CPU: 6800k OCed @ 4.0 GHz (stable)

MB: ROG Rampage V Extreme (latest bios)

CPU Cooler - Hydro Series H115i

RAM: Corsair Dominator platinum 32GB (3200MHz)

GPU:Gainward RTX 2080 Phantom GLH Edition (not OCed)

Even though i have Geforce experience installed i never run it.

I also had these crashes that a lot of people are complaining about (not those related to DX12,the other type where your game would randomly freeze and bring you back to desktop) but i fixed it by tweaking some of my secondary and tertiary timings on my RAM.It never crashed since.

IMO,it's also the game's fault,by design it's so demanding and unstable,that bring the rigs to their knees.For example one of my clan mates had to raise the voltage of his cpu in order to fix the crashes.He didn't have any problems with other AAA games like Assassin's creed odyssey or ,the latest tomb raider,or even with bf1 and bf4,only with bfv!

Now back to the DX12.TBH,last time i used DX12 was back in December and i have had some performance drop (less fps-minor stuttering) respect to DX11.I changed back to DX11 and never tried DX12 since.

In game my video settings are set to high with DX11.

Actually a couple of hours ago i had this discussion withanother of my clan mates.He is having a 2070 with DX12 and told me that i should try it as it doesn't have issues anymore.i will try it and i'll let you know how it is.

@SnakeEyesPC Nice rig you have great taste in MB and ram :] 6 core 12 threads should be no issue with DX12.Let me know how it works when you test DX12. Edit make sure you turn off DXR in BFV  in advanced video settings.

I have your MB and ram in my other rig until today we just changed out the MB to the Rampage V  10 edition :/ long story :/ So now I am going to go set it up as the husband needs it to game on until his build is done.

Hey @2042isNotBF switched,as i told you,to DX12 and had no issues at all! I guess since the last time i tried DX12 the drivers got better and i have no stutters!I can't say for sure if i have had less FPS cause are more or less the same as they were with DX11.

Yes,no DXR in multiplayer!I will enable it when i'll play the campaign for some eye candy.

I'm more than happy with the performance of my setup but i was thinking in upgrading to the i9 9900k. Since you have the 9900k,would you recommend me the upgrade,will i see any big performance differences from the 6800k?

@SnakeEyesPC Nice happy DX12 works for you correct.

I have the I9 - 9900K and from my i7-5960X yes a difference but once I got my ram at its correct speeds 4266Mhz and put in the   ROG Strix OC 2080 Ti it made a huge difference.

On my 144HRz 40 inch screen on med settings and 2 settings on ultra I get 170 - 200Fps in BFV and I stay more near 200FPS for my screen size this is amazing to me.

I love the  Maximus XI Extreme MB but some changes in Bios with XMP.. xmp 1, xmp2 for my ram XMP2 should work lol not so far. I could not get my ram on its speeds and yes it's in the QVL. I tried so many different bios it was crazy :/ It was not until I went all the way back to bios 602 think I put down bios 603 but its bios 602 I am on. Anyway once on 602 I got my ram at 4266 on manual settings, XMP 1 or XMP2 was a no go for me was not stable at all :/ .

It was not a fun build to set up and many people on ROG site still use bios 602 to have things stable with the OC . Was this build worth it now yes but the first 4 weeks I was smashing my head so mad XMP was a no go not stable and so much ram testing with karhu ram test paid for... best 20 bucks ever spent for a program to test ram. I also had issues on the new build from first start up DP cable would not work I had to put a HDMI cable on for the first bit until things got set up in bios and windows and never had this in the past with any build , new gen gear new issues :/ lol

So my point is if you go down this road what I said is a heads up you could run into some fun times setting her up. When all is said and done best rig ever but a huge pain to get stable with ram and my screen #$%!! that was a full on well I can't say the words on AHQ but you get the idea.

@2042isNotBFI was thinking in keeping the RAM's i already have (32 gb  @3200mhz)  and upgrading the rest,cpu and MB.Do you think i will also need faster memories?i was hoping that the corsairs i already got could keep up and support nicely the 9900k.

For a mb i was thinking in buying the rog maximus XI Code,like her looks! 🙂

@SnakeEyesPC The rog maximus XI Code is a very nice MB for sure good reviews on it so good choice.

When we put in the new MB in ..ROG Rampage V 10 series  on my i7-5960X yesterday I ran into issues with xmp and my Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR4 - 3600MHz - 32GB. BSOD  back in windows after I set XMP after windows was done and stable I tried xmp 3200 :/ Ram is not in the QVL for old MB or new MB but I had it at 3200 on xmp on the  ROG Rampage Extreme V and it was good to go for years.

Once some of  husbands PC parts come in today I will go down and try to get it stable at 3300 as thats the Rampage V 10 series limit but looks like another manul OC to try and get her good to go. XMP just seems to hate me the last bit lol. But I am thankful for Karhul ram test faster better then memtest 86 or others in my view. As I was told memtest 86 does not catch as much and is not made for the new gen gear,  Karhul is more suited for the new gen gear was told this from Asus staff so I trust it. He also said I could use free memtest 64 but to many windows need to be open to test all the ram so I paid for Karhul ram test it's just more easy. Windows ram test is like a bad joke as I have seen it pass ram with issues.

 https://www.karhusoftware.com/ramtest/

I think your ram would be ok but like me not in QVL you may be in for a small war to get her stable on speeds on a manul OC. And on my new build it was in the QVL for CPU and MB and it was still a war to get it stable on a manul OC so be ready for a war lol.