Re: Battlefield 2042 Beta was in a rough state - illustrated here...

You all musta played a different beta to me. I had essentially NO bugs, glitches or errors. No crashes. And it ran smooth as silk on HIGHEST quality on my RTX3080/8700k.

Furthermore, gameplay/specialists pros/* aside, I actually enjoyed it. the movement and gunplay felt nice, fun but different to my current favourite BF - BF4 (didn't like 1 and V demos so never bought them). The graphics were awesome in many places (esp for a beta). The upgrade visually from BF4 is night/day... choppers actually seem real now in their cockpits vs the low poly toys from BF4 (which I previously thought were 'good enough').

Vehicle dynamics? Jeeps were a bit jelly like and over the top when jumping, but had no issues with jets and choppers, in fact after I adjusted to them (felt strange AT FIRST) and the new more restrictive (but less 'cheaty'/overpowered) vehicle cams, I felt they were more realistic and weighty. it felt like I was actually in a real situation with much  more at stake than BF4 (which btw I love so don't get me wrong - 700+hours 140 rank etc... on that). I went back to BF4 thinking it would still feel better, but found it felt slow, cartoon like, and everything felt less weighty... in gunplay (still fun), and choppers were now feeling way over the top and over-reactive. I like how in 2042 the choppers remind me of old chopper sims like 'gunship' from the OLD OLD days (Amiga!).

Sure there are/were issues, but mostly nit-picks. I was there for the BF4 beta and also loved that but there were TONS more complaints about it than 2042... proper broken stuff like netcode (which took months to get right IIRC), loads of people moaning about it yet I still enjoyed it... and it turned out excellent in the end (around the first add on pack maybe - with Altai Range).

So.. they have it them to tweak and refine, but solidity and robustness wise I found 2042 beta to be pretty polished vs past betas and even demos of BFs and other games. Above all.. it felt fun, which BF1 and V didn't for me.

*at 3440x1440 that was too.

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@TheRealSharpfish wrote:

You all musta played a different beta to me. I had essentially NO bugs, glitches or errors. No crashes. And it ran smooth as silk on HIGHEST quality on my RTX3080/8700k.

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Yes, exactly to your point @TheRealSharpfish 

And reason why I posted this new thread, as here you can see in the video the very different and poor experience now that some of us had compared to your perfect world.  And that is of course then also cause for the big discrepancy between how some posters described their beta experience versus others.

Btw regarding the beta testing on PC, please note that many of the graphic optimization features were actually disabled in the beta.  So you could set the setting to be ULTRA, but nothing would change graphically on screen.  So obviously no performance difference either, when switching between aka Low and Ultra.settings.

Changing the Lighting (Shadows) was though active, as was the settings for mesh, undergrowth and ambient occlusion.

My friend's PC that we tested on was nothing special (2080 Ti), but we could see the best FPS we got was around 134FPS at lowest settings and the worst was around 85FPS if we sat everything to max.  But we did also observe screen stuttering from time to time though on my own PS5 console it was much much worse!

Buy it in June if you want it delayed.  Problem solved.  

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@Trokey66 wrote:
@CyberDymeHow about you explain exactly what is wrong with the game (not the beta, the actual game) now and how long each issue will take to fix.

Then and only then, is any discussion on delay relevant.

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@Trokey66 

I posted all that in multiple posts on the Beta testing area, but EA has very conveniently now deleted all our access to that.  So there you go...

Companies that truly care for their customers and have integrity do such software development in full transparency by keeping the known bug list visible and also posting release notes to answer to all bugs being found so far and fixed so far.  How about you ask EA responsible for the game development to do their job instead of asking me to do that for them.

@CyberDymeNo, you posted about issues with the Beta, not the actual game!

What is wrong with the current state of the actual game that justifies a delay?

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@Trokey66 wrote:

@CyberDymeNo, you posted about issues with the Beta, not the actual game!

What is wrong with the current state of the actual game that justifies a delay?

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No reason for silly word games here.

EA deemed that there was so much serious wrong with the actual game that they delayed the launch.

So the current state of the actual game (the last compile they made this morning.  You know, the one you refer to right) is in shambles.

EA deemed it justified the delay.  Ask them for details.

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@CyberDyme wrote:

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@Trokey66 wrote:
@CyberDymeHow about you explain exactly what is wrong with the game (not the beta, the actual game) now and how long each issue will take to fix.

Then and only then, is any discussion on delay relevant.

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@Trokey66 

I posted all that in multiple posts on the Beta testing area, but EA has very conveniently now deleted all our access to that.  So there you go...

Companies that truly care for their customers and have integrity do such software development in full transparency by keeping the known bug list visible and also posting release notes to answer to all bugs being found so far and fixed so far.  How about you ask EA responsible for the game development to do their job instead of asking me to do that for them.

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@CyberDyme technically those posts aren't deleted, they're archived so DICE can gather the relevant feedback from the Beta forum. Hiding inaccessible forums allows us to keep a cleaner forum structure. Remember how we normally consolidated the PC/Xbox/Playstation sub-forums into one general discussion forum after the game's end of support in the old forums? That being said I understand why one would want to reference the Beta forums until launch but this is the standard procedure and has been for years.

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@ragnarok013 wrote:

@CyberDymetechnically those posts aren't deleted, they're archived so DICE can gather the relevant feedback from the Beta forum. Hiding inaccessible forums allows us to keep a cleaner forum structure. Remember how we normally consolidated the PC/Xbox/Playstation sub-forums into one general discussion forum after the game's end of support in the old forums? That being said I understand why one would want to reference the Beta forums until launch but this is the standard procedure and has been for years.

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Indeed @ragnarok013 ,  👍

Sorry for my poor English, as referred to the deleted access to it, while aware EA keeps it on record.

EA have done so before, but that doesn't mean that it is great or best practice. 😀

On the contrary, reported bugs should be kept on record in the open, so all customers can see they are already recognized and reported on.  While now you see players again and again posting on the same, despite already reported to the Dev team.  If anything, at least having the decency to keep the beta forum bug posts accessible (read mode) until next release of the game would be relevant.

EA need to improve the customer experience end-to-end. 

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@Trokey66 wrote:
@CyberDymeIt is not word games, you are using the Beta as a direct comparison to the game as it stand today and I'm not the one suggesting a delay on the grounds of the Beta, you are!

The original delay was announced a month or so ago? We know the Beta was older than that so how do you know what state the game is in today? You don't.

As you rightly say, DICE/EA know and if they think a delay is justified, they (not us) will delay it.

So this whole 'delay the game' rubbish is nonsense as we are not in any position to justify it.

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How do you know that the beta was more than one month old? 

You don't.

But let's now play along those nonsense talks that we played on a 2 or even a 3 months old build.  (older than the technical playtest. 😂)

And here comes now the endless list of severe bugs we confirmed in the beta.  There was not one single area of the game/mechanics that didnt have bugs on the PS5 platform.  None.  And many of them game breaking. 

So the total workload to fix all this from the build date (even if 3 months ago) till now for the now delayed launch in 1 month is simply too much for the Dev team to fix those many issues.  That is a fact.  It is simply not realistic.  Reason why I proposed it reasonable to delay it further, to enable that we all will have a successful launch and game experience from the get go.

Actually according to the dice community rep the "beta" was "a few months old".  Though there are claims to the contrary. 

I didnt have a lot of issues with the beta

@Trokey66because they are obliged to tell you, the shareholder, etc., the objective truth, right ?

It looks like obvious lying to me.

Turn on your TV, listen to the 'news' and know that they are lying to you. But they are telling the official narrative that 'they' call 'the truth'. (opinion, wish, not fact, or mention fact but completely obliterate the right, needed context to make it upside down)

Even if those television workers might suspect that what they are spreading are lies, they like their paycheck more.

If the guy claiming that the build is old is lying and he knows he is doing it, then it might be lying for the money, not for the love of truth.

I personally say, that he is lying, you know, he did not back up his claims with evidence that we can check. It is as truthful as anonymous sources having secret evidence of XYZ but it is sikrit, so they cant show you. I mean, some people would jump and believe because it must be so sikrit. But these people are '0 IQ'.

Lies, unless proven with evidence - and objective untampered evidence is not what is in their interest. It is in their interest that public opinion be manipulated in such a way to guarantee their projected profits. Nothing personal. They can lie to you and get away with it.

Also, some people like to be lied to, they agree, just to avoid the pain of conflict. They must tell the truth. Otherwise it would bring pain, being lied to again, and ... well, again 🙂

Do such people have a shred of dignity in them ? I wonder.