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Re: Remove XP from bots -> to fix Portal

No this isn't it.

Honestly I don't get the Stigma about bots. 

Some people can't play pvp as well, or just don't want to sweat or play super seriously. Or heck even want to play HC, but cant from that.

and bots is the least they could do to make up for the removal of campaign.

This game is already dying, and bots have even been seen in AOW multiplayer from the player base leaving to other games.

No exp from bots would be darn near the final nail in the coffin for some people. 

People won't sit and wait around for servers to fill if you don't get Xp from bots will you wait. 

They need to just swallow their pride, and restore XP back to portal regardless. 

That was literally what they promised. People will always find a way to exploit the system.

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  • ShevermiN's avatar
    ShevermiN
    4 years ago

    You can farm bots for points in the official AOW servers so I can't see why it was such an issue in portal.  Anyway our portal servers had no bots so can't see why our clan has been punished.

    I had over 100 players in my friends list come back to BF2042,  over 50 have left never to come back because DICE pulled the rank up from portal servers.  If they had left the points alone for servers that didn't run bots we would have at least 3 severs a night running full every night,  one 128p,   one 48p rush  and one custom 32p  TDM or Gunmaster.

    After what happened in Hardline to not see this coming in portal is beyond belief, I mean really how removed from reality are the dev's.   

    I've  posted many times over the years that custom servers with a simple handicap system based around the custom settings is the way to go,  how can that be so hard to figure out.

    As it stands now I have no desire to play BF2042 and neither do many of my friends.......  we have just stopped gaming actually....   good work DICE people that don't game don't spend money on games..   great business model that.

  • Kean_1111's avatar
    Kean_1111
    4 years ago

    @SilverJackal96 wrote:

    No this isn't it.

    Honestly I don't get the Stigma about bots. 

    Some people can't play pvp as well, or just don't want to sweat or play super seriously. Or heck even want to play HC, but cant from that.

    and bots is the least they could do to make up for the removal of campaign.

    This game is already dying, and bots have even been seen in AOW multiplayer from the player base leaving to other games.

    No exp from bots would be darn near the final nail in the coffin for some people. 

    People won't sit and wait around for servers to fill if you don't get Xp from bots will you wait. 

    They need to just swallow their pride, and restore XP back to portal regardless. 

    That was literally what they promised. People will always find a way to exploit the system.


    Yeah, I don't get the issue either.  Many of us play games with campaigns that are against AI.  ....what's the difference in a scenario like Portal for those (like my friends and I) who just want to co-op with buddies?  ....or play PvP with just friends and add bots to fill slots on either team?  

    We simply don't like playing most PvP games with strangers. It has nothing to do with "gittin' gud" and everything to do with being fed up dealing with all the negatives associated with dealing with randoms.  ......exploits, cheating, annoying behavior, lack of teamwork, etc. We are all older and just tired of dealing with most others to be honest.   

    Having said that, there are exceptions.  Hell Let Loose is a good example as teamwork and communication is an absolute necessity if you want to have any fun with it. The whole "lone wolf" approach simply does not work and it really incentivizes players / teams to cooperate.

  • IAF_Nobanaa's avatar
    IAF_Nobanaa
    4 years ago

    @SilverJackal96 wrote:

    No this isn't it.

    Honestly I don't get the Stigma about bots. 

    Some people can't play pvp as well, or just don't want to sweat or play super seriously. Or heck even want to play HC, but cant from that.

    and bots is the least they could do to make up for the removal of campaign.

    This game is already dying, and bots have even been seen in AOW multiplayer from the player base leaving to other games.

    No exp from bots would be darn near the final nail in the coffin for some people. 

    People won't sit and wait around for servers to fill if you don't get Xp from bots will you wait. 

    They need to just swallow their pride, and restore XP back to portal regardless. 

    That was literally what they promised. People will always find a way to exploit the system.


    @Kean_1111 @DominickB3 @ShevermiN 

    Yes, I see that now. I completely forgot that people use Portal to create co-op experiences like those in Insurgency Sandstorm. If someone took bot XP away from Insurgency, it would suck for me and I now understand some people play Portal with the same mindset as I play Insurgency.

    I agree DICE should just restore full XP gain and kill unlocks to Portal. It's the only way to get a proper server selection and player base for Portal.

    I edited my original message to reflect this.

  • @IAF_Nobanaa Yeah really. Imagine if you only got exp from playing PVP modes only. Like Push or Ambush. In sandstorm.
    It would be terrible.
    But I'm glad you saw the other side. Unlike some people. But For real I hope they'll change it back.

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