Re: Why can a Gold league player play with a Bronze?

@PublicIDexists2If the people playing AGAINST the guy with a bronze on his team are good enough, the team are at a disadvantage unless the guy in bronze is a very good player who hasn't had the time to grind yet.

I love that players with less time but who are good can still jump in with their friends into a higher league and play. Its the thing that makes it not too bad that players weren't seeded into leagues up to gold from S1 kills/wins like they should have been.

Well then here's the thing. Don't make it a grind system. There are better ways to make a ranking system. But the way they have set it up, anyone can make it to the top. I find that extremely lame and I know I'm not the only one. Why make a ranking system if the ranks aren't true to each player? I understand everything that each person has said and to make an observation, I believe that the only people who have commented on this post are those who want to play with lower ranks or lower ranks who want to play with their friends who are higher ranks. And in response, I say, play regular Apex. That's why it's still open. If you don't have the time, that sucks. If you're not the best at the game, that's okay. But if Apex is going to make a ranking system that makes sense, then they need to reset the parameters for ranking up instead of just making it a grind system. It's no one's fault but the makers of the game and their short-sightedness. I'm not the best at the game and I don't have all the time in the world, but I'd rather make it as far as I can honestly.

@PublicIDexists2Lower ranked players playing with their high ranked friends in sweaty lobbies is a way that it ISN'T a grind, man :/ My friends who don't have time are still playing gold with us because they're good players.

Bads wont get high in the time they've got to do it.

A rigid bracket system simply won't work for OCE region as there aren't enough players.

It is a grind for those who have the time and for those who don't, like I said before, that sucks. But it's no one's fault but the game designers. If they change the parameters of how you get to higher ranks instead of amount of time one is able to play the game then this would be a non issue and those who don't have all the time in the world would stop being penalized. But that's not the case right now. And I am highly doubtful that this is going to change this season, which sucks. Because Apex has to be my favorite game since it came out and it sucks even more that it's being controlled by people who seemingly don't even care about it. I'm sorry if we don't see eye to eye on this issue. But I hope we have both gotten at least a little more insight into the other side of the spectrum.

We are talking about all players. And I'm talking about honestly working through the ranks. If you're good then you should get a higher rank. If you're not then you shouldn't. Just because someone has all the time in the world to play doesn't mean they should necessarily come into a high rank. But the way they have set up the ranking system, that's exactly what will happen. And that sucks. But if they want to make it competitive like they say they want to, then ranks should not be able to mix. I believe that ranks should be based off of K/D ratio and win/loss ratio. So if player 1 has higher stats than player 2, then player 1 should have a higher ranking no matter how many hours or how many games each has played. I believe this is a more fair and honest route and would set the stage for a better and more competitive ranking system.

I'm not saying to take everyone's K/D or W/L ratio from when they started playing the game. They should've started a tracker for it when they released their ranking system so everyone would start off at zero. Sure there would've been a few here and there that weren't good or were good that started off at the rank that they truly aren't. But with a couple of weeks under their belt, with no matter how much time they were able to play, they would've made it to their respective ranks, or at least close to it. Because the merit awarded should not be based on the amount of time one has to play. It should be based on pure skill. If you think about it, we wouldn't even be having this conversation if they had just done this from the start. Because you say your friends are good enough to keep up with you, then they would be the same rank as you. 🙂

This is what you're worried about when there are Hackers everywhere in ranked?

@PublicIDexists2What is the issue you're facing in game that's making you say this, mate?

I understand the theory behind what you're saying - I get it. I'm not seeing anything negative happening in game to make the changes you're talking about anywhere near urgent.

[edit] - Sort of selfish on behalf of my continent and NZ - but your system would kill ranked dead in Australia for all but the low leagues.

1. Absolutely. This game has a very high potential for future cash prize tournaments. There will always be a way to weed out hackers. Such as watching high ranked games closer and paying attention to if someone is healing without using any kind of medical aid. Things like that.

2. Purity of the game and the skills that each player possesses. I know this is bold to say but if I'm the only one here who recognizes the full potential of this game and the ability it has to mold the future of the gaming stratosphere then I'm a little more than shocked. I'm not a forums person. This is one of the few moments in my entire life that I've felt a forum with actual constituents from the main party, who are watching and reading these comments and discussions, would actually take action. It's too late to do anything this season. I understand. But there is still more than enough time to save season 3 and do things the right way. It will be tougher if they make these changes. But if they want this game to reach it's full potential, then it's not going to be an easy road for the players.

That's what must make us have these differing views. You only care about getting a good play in where as I care about every aspect of the game. I'm a lunatic who pays attention to every little detail and obsesses over it when I know it can be done better. I know it's not healthy. But it's who I am and I can't help it lol

I honestly don't understand why basing rankings off K/D and W/L ratio from the start of season 3 would ruin you getting good games. You would literally be grouped up with people of the same caliber without having the issue of playing with different ranks. And as I said before, if you're friends are good enough, then they would be the same rank as you. It almost seems as if you have tunnel vision on this issue because you're doing well in the ranks and if the system changes then you might not reach such heights. I'm not trying to attack you. I'm just trying to understand why you're so against a straight forward system. And if you think over  80 days isn't enough time to grind to the top, you are severely mistaken. That is more than enough time to grind.

I see your points as valid. But how many players are there on your continent? And I'm not sure exactly how it works but I play this game with people from different countries and continents all the time. How exactly does that work?

The biggest headache caused for me so far is that they didn't seed the brackets based on S1 results.  Friends in Plat etc are having to wait for enough people to qualify before they can play.

That's why they could have different stipulations for ranking up based on the gaming population of each region. Then at the end of the season take the top 60 players from each region. Hold a best of 10 tournament. And go on from there. All the way to having a best of 10 tournament with the 60 best players in the world. That would make for an insanely awesome and competitive tournament. Anything can be adjusted to make things not only correct, but right.

Yeah and that's what sucks. I've said it before but it's disappointing when something great comes along and the people who control it don't care about it.

It only works for gold and bronze. If I have a friend that is plat and I’m silver I can’t play with them. And ranked is more fun to play with friends because even if they aren’t the same rank you can do better with them because you have comms

The actual apex community enjoys playing ranked with their friends. HATERS on the other hand have no friends that play apex and therefore hate the game