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Re: Nerf R99 and R301!

It's because people thinks that certain guns makes the player and not the other way around. The players that are whining about the wingman for an instance, they are all BAD. These players are all gold rank at the very best and the reason why they die to the Wingman is the same as why they die to every other gun, they just straight up get outplayed.. But for some reason they have it their heads that it must be because Wingman is OP, not because other players are just better than them...

Case in point, NRG players for an instance could have no armor and nothing but a Mozambique while these whining nublets can carry a wingman + purple armor and NRG players would STILL wipe the floor with these whiners, something which in itself should rule out the fact that wingman is OP. It's hilarious how they are crying OP and not even one of these whiners has ANY evidence to back up their claims. They say "2 shots downs players" and yet I see no videos of even the greatest predator rank players consecutively and consistently downing other players with just 2 Wingman shots.. To the "nerf wingman" whiners; even if they took the wingman out of the game, you STILL wouldn't do any better than you do now! Instead you would all just whine about the next gun.

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  • R-99 doesn't need any changes. Sure, it still a fan favorite weapon. But at 11 damage and the ammo already perfect, it just doesn't need anymore toning.

    R-301 however is a weapon I like to see slightly buffed. Personally, it should be at 15 damage or increase the ammo from 18/20/25/28 to 20/22/26/30 if they want the weapon to stay at 14 damage. 

    R-301 is actually the weakest assault rifle in the game and usually requires the person to reload to down someone. It is possible to one clip people with it, so don't get me wrong, but it's true that you'll reload more often to down someone you already shot at. 

  • Madsciencelich's avatar
    Madsciencelich
    6 years ago

    I would like to politely disagree concerning the R-99.

    The weapon is borderline broken. My reasons for thinking so are as follows; It can shred even purple grade shields far too quickly, rate of fire seems excessive even for a submachinegun and it has no damage fall off as my team and i were quite recently mowed down by another team who were more of twenty yards away (roughly sixty feet) which one can argue is more suitable for Hemloks and G7s.

    That said I do agree about the R-301, it does seem quite underpowered with its damage. Some solid points there

  • Leo_the_Lion25's avatar
    Leo_the_Lion25
    6 years ago
    @Madsciencelich No weapons in the game has fall off damage though. Only fall damage is the headshot multiplier depending on how far you are.

    The weapons with Fall off damage are the powerful weapons at a distance like Charge Rifle and Havoc Select Fire. Those are the only weapons at comes to my mind that actually has fall off damage.
  • @Alphabets Its simple care pack the r99 so full squads can't get it the whole point of care pack is to have op guns in them then id drop the devotion back into the wepon pool and put the r99 into it
  • Remove Barrel mods for the R99. Personally I hate the gun and would like to see it in a supply drop.

    My hate is partially that it's a very strong weapon and can still melt at good range with a barrel mod + it's such an overused weapon, literally everyone uses it and it's getting old. People will pick one up faster than a purple body shield.

    R301 is fine imo as it is.

  • xxAIDENxx94's avatar
    xxAIDENxx94
    6 years ago

    @xx_Dante2k_xxThe problem is the fact that there is no counter for the r99 since the peacekeeper was put in the carepack and the prowler needs select fire to use it. Its pointless to have all these wepons in the game when you can pick up the r99 and melt squads with it. They need to bring the devotion out of the care pack and back into the wepon pool and put the r99 into the care pack because the devotion is not as powerful and has too much recoil.

  • @xxAIDENxx94 I think that the new mastiff is one of the counter of R99 (at least you still win the fight), but yea there is too few counters to these short-ranged weapons, as the alternator and EVA-8 SHOULD better than R99/mastiff, (but actually they don't) which leads to less weapon choices in fighting short range, just like you are hard to fight with a sniper when you are using ARs at ~400 metres.

    Another problem is R99 can be also used in mid-range fight, having a high flexibility like wingman to fight in all ranges. When someone master the recoil of the R99, they can laserbeamed someone who is far away, which is what we don't want to see, so does wingman.

    For R301, I don't think it needs a nerf. Although it is similar as R99, but actually no one uses this gun because a R99/Wingman/G7 can do a better job than R301. So, it needs a buff instead of nerf.
  • xxAIDENxx94's avatar
    xxAIDENxx94
    6 years ago

    @Xx__Miku831__xXThe r301 dosent need a buff or nerf its only because there is no anvil reciever in the game anymore it felt weaker to me but its still the same.

    The fact that the r99 is so easy to get and hard to counter is a disgrace they put the devotion in the care pack which is not "op" and yet that gun is hard to get kills with.

    The wingman needs skull piercer though to be dangerous and also the eva 8 needs its rate of fire improved as the level 1 shotgun bolt is bad on it. The alternator is fine its always been a low recoil low damage wepon since the titanfall series.

    The problem with the r99 compared to its titanfall 2 counter part the r97 is the fact that there is counters to the gun and whilst yes it melts people its recoil is high and needs to be controled compared to the r99 that has little recoil and no counters. There is 2 ways they can deal with this they can put the volt in the game which is a energy submachine gun which is similar to the alternator but with better damage and its energy to counter the r99 or put it in the care pack and give us the devotion back.

  • @xxAIDENxx94I personally want EA to add the energy SMG into the game, but sadly I believe that they will solve the problem by putting R99 to the bin, just like that sniper shotgun.

    But R301 still have a low use rate since the nerf in the early season, and the rate doesn't increase a lot even in season 4. I believe that the popup is not enough to make people to choose R301.

  • xxAIDENxx94's avatar
    xxAIDENxx94
    6 years ago

    @Xx__Miku831__xX Compare the r301 to the season 1 r301 where it was ridiculas to play against and was like a laser beam. In the current meta of the game it holds its own well against the other ars in the game. Its a phase everyone has gone for the havoc which means the r301 is becoming an underated gun i personally prefer the flatline or r301 over the havoc but its my opinion. The way you have to see it is to compare the r301 and flatline imagine the r301 as the m4 and the flatline as the ak the r301 is always going to be more accurate but with less power compared to the flatline which has a slower fire rate but has more damage.

    What people don't remember is that the r301, r201, and r101 are all designed for accuracy over power it says in the lore that its balanced to help pilots and soldiers on the frontier with more emphasis on accuracy and being able to engage people at range whilst sustaining a good fire rate 🙂

    But they should add the vault since there going through titanfall 2 wepons the vault is the next wepon they should put in unless they choose to add the car smg instead which would solve the r99 problem since the car is the mp7 of the titanfall universe.

  • xxAIDENxx94's avatar
    xxAIDENxx94
    6 years ago
    @Lord_Scorpion34 The problem is the fact that the vault whilst is a energy smg it would need lots of work to make it a balanced gun in apex.

    But instead there is rumours of the epg coming as the next wepon which is a 1 hit grenidier wepon on players.

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