I waited a few weeks before jumping into ranked so all the TTV's and such high ranking players can balance into their ranks (like diamonds and above), yet somehow everyone who's pred level (skill wis...
What gets me is how much KP DOES NOT MATTER at all in the early stages of the game, you can hypothetically out-skill and kill 6 teams off drop, have 18kp and still be in the negative points when you die to the 7th team making you come in 14th place. There is now FAR TOO MUCH emphasis on placement points, it encourages boring play styles like ratting and not fighting.
1 RP Per Kill until top 13 is beyond a bad design. you can no longer cushion your fall slightly if you die early on, its just a straight crash landing if you die early game.
I dont even think the matchmaking is that bad personally, I used to be able to reach solo masters every season before this and now I'm just plat 4 struggling to get a hold of any RP.
They increased the amount needed to rank up, they increased the entry cost, and then they didnt increase how much RP you get. + you can now derank (personally i think the derank is good, no more hardstuck 4s running in blind without a care in the world)
@PholanxTTV Matchmaking is a problem for most players, I constantly get these kinds of teammates VS these kinds of players, and it makes no real sense:
(Note: This is from the same match)
Edited: "Matchmaking is just fine" - uhhhh.... no it isn't. Here's proof:
According to this, I'm somehow a masters to pred ranked player. My highest rank EVER was Plat III, and the highest kills I've gotten in one game was 17 (back in Season 4), highest damage being 3860 (this was more recent, like Season 9 or so. I don't remember). How am I considered "similar skill" to someone who got masters for THREE seasons?
Bronze also feels like I'm in Diamond and higher lobbies. Plat was tough as a solo, but somehow Respawn managed to make Bronze feel like the sweatest, try hard rank ever.
Their matchmaker will form "average mmr" teams by pairing low and high mmr players together on the same team. This forms matches exponentially faster. This is an unfortunately extremely common trend among game devs, as they are not experts in player psychology, and are only beholden to doing "job's done boss" type effort where they show things are balanced statistically on paper, but not in reality. They don't understand this is toxic to both kinds of players, as low elo doesn't like being benched every match for being able to do anything, nor do high elo players like feeling like they're perpetually a man down.
They know people's true MMR, as they have the reliable ability to give new and low elo players hard carry stacks to a win every 20 matches, for EOMM purposes.
Once again, they don't implement same mmr team-and-lobby for a few reasons:
Time constraints. Easier to form matches of averaging out, than it is to actually form matches of MMR brackets.
EOMM purposes.
Their method of figuring out people's MMR is coarse-grained and noisy, so they overcompensate with wideband matchmaking and only dedicate the few clear-cut MMR cases towards the 1-in-20 winrate enforcement teams that get used to escort players on a loss streak into a win. Or to make sure people don't go over said win rate too badly.
@Death_By_RingThis is very much true. Respawn knows how to make the matchmaking work, but they choose to go a EOMM route. I think this is also to satisfy the top 1% of players (the masters/preds), as they get into lobbies they can easily stomp and destroy.
The new rank system is okay in its own rights, but its implementation of matchmaking is WAY worse than S12, and prior seasons.
Due to this decision of EOMM, and how badly they messed up ranked, (the fact that Bronze to Gold rank lobbies are consisted of Rookie to Diamond players, with the skill required to rank up being Pred++ level), I have decided to ignore every single teammate I get from this point on.
I refuse to work as a team with below level 100 teammates, teammates who are still Rookie rank, teammates with no skills (ranging from aiming, awareness, etc), teammates who play like noobs/bots, and other kinds of useless teammates.
Having to resort to this kind of behavior doesn't sit right with me, but Respawn doesn't want to have an actual matchmaking system. So, for that reason, I won't care about the teammates I get.
This is the sort of thing that also leads to toxic players. Such as the ones who run off solo and then blames their teammates.
Based on how I've been feeling about the game, and as things like this goes on, and even how teammates steal my IMC Armory loot (from my bins after I open them), amonst other actions, it becomes easier to understand why this game has so many toxic players.
It seems that a lot of players want to work as a team, but they're forced into terrible matchmaking over and over, that they become irritable and more prone to snap on their teammates for every little action.
While I don't plan on becoming toxic, I'm sure my random teammates are going to feel like I am. However, I keep the game voice and text chat muted, and if they start spam pinging, that gets muted as well.
A better solution would be for Respawn to fix the issues with the game. Instead us players are going to have to play as solos, and break away from the "team-based" aspect of the game.
Edited: After posting this, I got these two teammates who are in the same club. This only enforces my reason for playing as a solo in ranked:
While of course, since I decided to be a solo, I still get to fight other low level players from enemy teams. My teammate Ash above was a smurph. They were playing like a pred, while Wraith was 100% a "new" player. That Wraith got killed 3 times in a row. In the meantime, this is who I died to when 3 different teams focused their fire on me:
I don't know how Respawn defines "rank", or "skills" exactly, but anyone below level 100 shouldn't qualify to even get into rank, because people are just smurphing to murder lower lobbies or to get into matches as a level 10-50 cheater. That's not fun for anyone else.
Edited 2: My next game, I got these two teammates who are also in the same club. If anyone thinks the game has any kind of skill base matchmaking, or meaning to the matchmaking, this is simply not a thing.
Welp, want to share my expirience with you. I just got plat 4. at the very beggining of season it(ranked system) was cool for me, because in previous rank system in diamond 1 i`ve met players that dont deserve it, and now, it happend along the way to play. In previous system the most cursed rank was play, but now its gold, cuz u can get rookies with lvl 30 in ur team, and preds as enemts in same match. As i can see they(devs) tried to make smooth transition along the ranks, like u constanly feel player quality improvement, but it went horribly wrong because u either got teamed up with someone who either know how to play properly or dont know how 2 shoot before plat. and from 10 play matches i can see thta here is WAY more competetive level of gameplay. I dont want to cry about facing way more stronger enemys than me, cuz i can learn how 2 play better because of it, but i dont want 10 hours into apex players here as well. This almost imposible now for solo que(non of my friends like apex, and finding someone throught discords, etc. havent succseed.)
In my opinion they should do smth with messed gold lobby, in plat u already need to w8 for lobby to fill, so i think that more players now in gold, but in gold instead of gold teammates u got rookie/bronze/silver. But i`m good with plat being sweaty now, i really do enjoy it, before first pre-made TTV/pro/sweaty squads face mine somehow idk how they got this rank teammates.
Conclusion; everything from rookie to gold 1 is a pit that sucking you down ranks, so you must put huge amount of effort to get out. As a reward in more higher ranks chance to meet more skilled randoms in ur team is high, and overall quality of games are more competetive and challenging, and its slightly easier to rank up there since ur teammates somehow got there too, so they know how to play this game.
P.S. Sorry for my english. And this reply in general, didnt find better way to exrpess my expirience