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4 years ago

Knockdowns and damage give RP in ranked

I think the ranking system would be much more accurate if you received RP for knocking enemies, since you can't always rely on teammates to help you with wiping a squad, and can almost never rely on ...

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Ironflower196

4 years ago

@apostolateofDOOM Any player can make it to plat just by getting placement. I could probably do it without firing a shot. Yes I get to diamond solo, but I want the chance to compete for a master or pred spot not waste so much time trying to get through plat because I have to carry my team almost every game. Honestly it feels easier getting through diamond 4 than plat 4 and it shouldn't be that way. I would just like to have a something else to aim for to get RP.

apostolateofDOO

4 years ago

@Ironflower196 I agree that anyone can climb to plat easily without even picking up a gun which shouldn't be the case and why it's such a cluster truck from then on because so so many don't belong anywhere near there but without an entire overhaul of the RP system, i doubt it's going to change much.

As i said earlier, they put a post up saying they're happy with the current state of ranked which doesn't fill me with much hope for the future. Just look at the minor changes for this season now saturating more would be plats into diamond + matches just to get farmed by pred squads.

Ranked in Apex is unfortunately a joke for a competitive shooter both in the format and the state of connections/servers ect...

I think it desperately needs to change, just damage for RP not being the solution.

Ironflower196
4 years ago
@apostolateofDOOM You are right it probably won't change much because yes they seem to be happy about the way things are and it keeps things simple for them. But I would like a more diverse scoring system, not just damage, it seems too basic for the amount of work I put into ranked games. I finally reached plat 3 the other day and feel super drained and haven't played ranked since because I'm kinda recharging in pubs.
How would you change things?
- apostolateofDOO
  4 years ago
  @Ironflower196 There's a few things to consider if you're wanting to get them to change or improve the current system that aren't a priority to you or me (the users) and/or would go against the improvements we feel should be added.
  Player engagement - With the introduction of rank splits keeping players to carry on grinding or to return for the second half of the season. Anything that effects this negatively would be turned away. One of my issues is predator being determined by time played now as some of us have full time jobs and family that can't play x amounts of hours everyday. Skill should be the determining factor in the highest brackets of ranked, not time played where kids, unemployed or those that play games for a living (streamers) have a much higher chance of maintaining pred.
  Increasing the amount of kills for RP - Not only would this bring you to your respective rank faster but also potentially being detrimental to what i mention above as you would have no need to keep playing once you plateau. It would also increase the speed of matches with kills being a priority over placement also being a negative multiplier for player engagement. This would lead to more inconsistency between matches where fights are increased early on (fighting less equipped teams for easier RP early game) but leaving 5 teams after the first ring leading to dull moments throughout the rest of the matches when they want the action evenly spread out.
  The very late changes we saw for this seasons ranked also reflect this.
  Servers and connection - With the only choice we currently have being the lobbies data center that you connect to but the algorithm puts you in a different regions server anyway (or sub optimal server providers) to either accommodate SBMM, reduce que times and other factors with people potentially from a different continent in your matches effecting gameplay. This inconsistency is what killed ranked PC with many ''pro'' players leaving Apex quite early on. This is without mentioning the poor netcode, server tickrate, bug, exploits, prioritising bad connection clients and a whole host of other problems with the current competitive mode and Apex in general.
  Because of these things and many, many more.. They'll likely never change ranked into something that i would consider seriously investing my time and effort into again. This is from someone who kept pushing hard for a ranked mode during season 1 on AHQ, achieved pred in season 2 (series 1), didn't play much season 3 ranked because of dashboarding/alt f4 exploit and lost interest while watching it slowly degenerate with very minor changes into what we have today.
  Apex is and always will be just a casual cash cow game so treat it like such.
  Edit: Typos with some probably left as last night was a late one. Cheers! 🍺
  - kellanammann
    4 years ago
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