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Re: Aim assist is ruining the game

@Zamaha400 I’m not over stating the advantages of aim assistance. All of my information comes from professional players and my own experiences when I had a contract for an org and large data sets.

1. 4a) Aim assist does not align with competitive integrity, inputs with aim assist do not even need to predict which way enemies strafe
2. 4a) Aim assist ignores visual and audio clutter
3. Aim assist ignores mental and physical fatigue that inputs without aim assistance are subject too
4. Aim assistance is literal software and has perfect tracking and inhuman 0ms reaction time
5. 3a) Aim assistance makes professional players feel like they would hate their lives if they had continued to play mouse and key. Controller is so strong because of aim assist that players are forced to swap inputs to stay competitive and keep what’s left of their sanity
6. 1a) “D” tier controller players are better than “S” tier mouse and keyboard players because of aim assistance
7. 1a) At 58:40 the group talks about how over tuned aim-assist is in Apex Legends
8. 2a) At 00:35 the best player in the world and two pros continue the discussion on aim-assist 
9. 3a) Best player in the world, describing the current state of Apex Legends and what it’s like to play Apex Legends without aim-assist
10. Aim assist gives way to much value and pro leagues are no long scouting mnk players for new roster additions. 

1a) https://youtu.be/ZUvDos8fFzU?si=fdVw2V1u_NaKPv5_
 
2a) https://youtu.be/_p2O-VLyZFc?si=mtdLTmtbOHHXGaTL
 
3a) https://youtu.be/4h66ZPuRXF4?si=QRvKLgO3wGimMT9b

4a) https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveApex/comments/144vgzm/naughty_is_all_for_an_aim_assist_nerf/?utm

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  • @Tspin Points 1-4 are virtually the same. I don't expect game features to disappear just because a leaf fell into the player's point of view or because the player needs a nap. Drunk or fully sober I expect the game to function the same even if the player's performance drops off dramatically.

    Reason #3 is also why I kept saying your points are technically true but meaningless. If you're directly stating that AA works even if the player is tired then that's true... every feature of the game continues to work regardless of the player's condition 100% true. If you're saying that the player's performance doesn't change whether he's tired or well rested then that's BS. 

    Conflating the ability of Aim Assist to the player's ability blurs the line of truth to me which is annoying. Seems like you're implying controllers have perfect accuracy even when exhausted and blinded by trees/smoke.

    My one and only annoyance is the exaggeration of the abilities of AA. There have been various videos put forward on how AA works on dummies and they have looked drastically different. Since regular controller players don't experience AA to the level of strength that PC describes and test videos don't agree with eachother it's easy to dismiss the argument. 

    Could also just be a difference in the class of player we're talking about but low level players don't track well and even good players still need to predict movement.

  • csj711's avatar
    csj711
    New Vanguard
    3 years ago

    If you watch the broadcast of progamers playing rank mode on the Tokyo server, you can see cheaters cheating with converters very easily.

    Even in casual mode, it's very easy to see cheaters bullying normal players with converters...

    As time goes by, many people playing on the Tokyo server are bound to be negative about AA.

  • Tspin's avatar
    Tspin
    3 years ago
    @Zamaha400 Watch the videos in the links. The best coach in the world is giving his honest opinions, the best player in the world is giving his honest opinions, professional players all know how broken aim assistance is. Everybody in the world agrees aim assistance is extremely over tuned. You’re a flat earth believer too I bet.