I get it - third parties are inherent in the game style. You love to be on the right side of a third party. You hate being on the wrong side of one.But could there be a balance?Consider this: what if after you kill another squad completely, each person on your team gets healed 25 or 50 shield health? It might give the third partied team a better fighting chance against that sneaky team that can't take fights head on, and runs around trying to find the easy, weakened prey.

Can you guys just stop!. 3rd party is a problem because how loud the game is.. I could shoot my gun on kings canyon and a squad on Olympus can hear it and rushes in.. the games are over fast because how loud the guns, revives, self revives, foot steps, ziplines, portals, lobas ring thing, looting, gun swaps, caustic dropping gas bottles and jumping off small af ledges. On KC just hear for the dragons and yup.. That's a squad there.. worlds edge someone is gonna fall in the lava or listen to the wells going up, yup squad there.. on Olympus you've got both the phase runner and the titan. The sound is to high, it attracts other teams and the game is over before it got started. THATS the real issue! Not swapping shields or any of that b.s... there would be no need for that if it didn't sound like you're firing off lightning bolt each bullet you take. Gez

@ManoftheRhino Solution you suggested is already in game. Its called shield swap.

@PogeNoobOk that may be so what do you do when you get third-partied and you can't get out of it and can't shield swap fast enough, then what? I'm only asking because on to many occasions I myself experience this along with the fabled third-party a third-party of a third-party. It like a dog pile later in the game. What do you do for that kind of encounter?

People complaining about third party dont get that respawn wants this in tbe game.Proof of this is just look at how maps progressed. Every single map has increased the ability to third party easily with snipers and rifles. Kings canyon was loved because it was harder to third party. So what did respawn do. They removed all places of cover in open areas. They moved ziplines and ballons to be more in the open. They even added an extra gun and anvil back.Just think about evo shields. They weren't added to help people fight. They were added to help teams who third party. Before if yoh didnt fight you couldnt progress sheilds and loot. Now you have a character to steal loot and you get rewarded for camping just doing pick damage.Respawn cant balance a game to save their life. So they use third partying to deal with dominate teams. Each update makes this game worse unless you enjoy hiding and just third partying. The whole rank premise not only rewards it put pushes that you have to do it. People have since the start requested a nerf to sound distance. They have requested silencers. They have requested making third partying harder. They have requested rewarding kills over placement. Respawn have continually spat in the face of the community. Because respawn dont actually play their game. They pretend they do but its clear they dont as nerfs and buffs only care about data not actuall feedback and experience.Season 8 was respaw last chance and its clear they only care about overcharging for skins than actually fixing and progressing the game

Exactly. Shield swapping is the ultimate solution to replenishing your shields, but sometimes you get trapped in those situations when you don't have time to shield swap. That's where this solution really shines. Since you're getting some shield health regenerated from the engagement, you could still shield swap, but you'll have that extra leg up against the competition.I hate dog piling. I'm sure you do, too. This should make people think twice about third party engagements. Hell, they're still going to do it. But this would allow a more favorable transition from one fight to the next.

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37 Replies

PogeNoob
5 years ago
@ManoftheRhino Solution you suggested is already in game. Its called shield swap.
Lygerk_p
5 years ago
@PogeNoobOk that may be so what do you do when you get third-partied and you can't get out of it and can't shield swap fast enough, then what? I'm only asking because on to many occasions I myself experience this along with the fabled third-party a third-party of a third-party. It like a dog pile later in the game. What do you do for that kind of encounter?
ManoftheRhino
5 years ago
Exactly. Shield swapping is the ultimate solution to replenishing your shields, but sometimes you get trapped in those situations when you don't have time to shield swap. That's where this solution really shines. Since you're getting some shield health regenerated from the engagement, you could still shield swap, but you'll have that extra leg up against the competition.
I hate dog piling. I'm sure you do, too. This should make people think twice about third party engagements. Hell, they're still going to do it. But this would allow a more favorable transition from one fight to the next.
DeMiGoD1988
5 years ago
Can you guys just stop!. 3rd party is a problem because how loud the game is.. I could shoot my gun on kings canyon and a squad on Olympus can hear it and rushes in.. the games are over fast because how loud the guns, revives, self revives, foot steps, ziplines, portals, lobas ring thing, looting, gun swaps, caustic dropping gas bottles and jumping off small af ledges. On KC just hear for the dragons and yup.. That's a squad there.. worlds edge someone is gonna fall in the lava or listen to the wells going up, yup squad there.. on Olympus you've got both the phase runner and the titan.
The sound is to high, it attracts other teams and the game is over before it got started. THATS the real issue! Not swapping shields or any of that b.s... there would be no need for that if it didn't sound like you're firing off lightning bolt each bullet you take. Gez
Henry_Chungster
5 years ago
@ManoftheRhino @Lygerk_p @DeMiGoD1988 Totally agree! The soloution to this is so easy and EA / respawn should just do it.
Reduce the sound fo gun fights so people on the other side of the map aren't like "oh shooting, 3rd party time" *insert partick rubbing hands meme*
Tbh I thought that was the idea of that healing bubble LTM, reduce the fighting noise so people in the near by area cannot hear it?
I am not saying 3rd party needs to be elimited as a whole but they could easily reduce the sound so not everyone comes! 3rd party? In the duos I ran last night there was 6th parties there ahaha! people were lining up for a peiece of us, they didn't want to fight each other on the way though!
DeMiGoD1988
5 years ago
@Henry_Chungster7 We walked into cage on ranked.. not one team, my teammate for unknown reason shot a loot tick... and no word of a lie 3 bullets and 6 squads later we barely got out of that fight.. 6 damn squads one after another, it was f*cked
Henry_Chungster
5 years ago
@DeMiGoD1988 hahah, I totally feel you in this respect. Happens are the time to me as well!
Lygerk_p
5 years ago
@DeMiGoD1988 This is true and I've never laughed so hard at a description that could never be more true. They do need to lower the volume so things aren't headr across the map.
Faust3838
5 years ago
They really need to fix this. I can't play a game without the dog piling. It's really getting old and frustrating when you have no time to heal and just keep fighting squads back to back. The sound does draw them in. But also they reward the third partiers with extra kills. Maybe if they fix that part it might help. Example: You're fighting a squad and down two of them before a third squad enters. They finish the last player of that first squad you're fighting and they get all 3 kills. If you downed two and they downed the third, then you should get two kills. They finish off your squad too because you're all low from the first squad. They get 6 kills for hardly any work. They're rewarding third partiers with extra kills... Maybe receiving extra shield after you finish a squad would help too. Swapping shields doesn't always work if you already swapped it, It only works one time. Finishers will fill your shield.
Vogl1023
5 years ago
They could give the winning team health after a team wipe but we know apex doesn’t really care
they gotta copy others BR ideas and hope the streamers and their acolytes act nicely