Grüße,
spätestens mit Season 9 fallen einem die Schwachstellen des Spiels ins Auge. Deutlich!
Man müsste meinen, die Entwickler hätten sich Vorschläge, Anregungen und Kritik der Spieler zu Herzen genommen und hätten diese Kritikpunkte beseitigt.
Fehlanzeige!
Dass Respawn alles andere als unterbesetzt (oder finanzschwach) ist, das sieht man spätestens daran, wieviele Recolors und sonstiger Murks ins Spiel gedrückt wird.
Die eigentlichen Probleme aber bleiben unangetastet - man melkt die Kuh wo man nur kann. Investiert dort, wo Geld zu holen ist...nicht aber in den Erhalt der Spielqualität.
Woran krankt es denn nun? Da gibt es diverse bekannte mittlerweile mehr als auffällige Punkte:
Ich habe Apex immer wieder mal zu den Akten gelegt, weil der Frust zu groß wurde. Wenn man seit Season 1 über immer die gleichen Probleme stolpert, dann ist irgendwann
die Lust am Spiel weg.
Wo kann man Kritik anbringen, so dass sie auch ankommt? Dies hier ist das offizielle Forum, welches von Respawn genannt und empfohlen wird. Aber wo sind sie? Die Respawn-
Mitarbeiter? Zeigt sie mir. Warum werden diese Probleme - man schaue nur einmal quer durchs Forum - nicht zeitnah angegangen und abgestellt?
Wann behebt man das katastrophale Matchmaking?
Warum treten nur in Apex Lags, Stuttering und Freezes auf, während CoD, BF, Hunt etc glatt laufen bei maximalen Grafikeinstellungen?
So oft wie ich heute nur zu zweit gestartet bin...so oft wie ich heute Fights wegen der Freezes verloren habe...so oft wie ich heute mit Predatoren und He-Mans ins Match gepackt wurde....eine Hand reicht für´s Abzählen nicht mehr aus.
Wir brauchen Lösungen!!!
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*hust* Caustic *hust*
Deswegen wird zufällig auch immer nur bei irgendwelchen Streamern, der Cheater live gebannt, das wird gezeigt und gesehen. Man bannt einen live und kann sagen \"wir haben immer ein Auge drauf.\"
(P.S. da wurden auch schon falsche gebannt aber Streamer XY hat gesagt es sei so also zack und kick)
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*hust* Caustic *hust*
Deswegen wird zufällig auch immer nur bei irgendwelchen Streamern, der Cheater live gebannt, das wird gezeigt und gesehen. Man bannt einen live und kann sagen \"wir haben immer ein Auge drauf.\"
(P.S. da wurden auch schon falsche gebannt aber Streamer XY hat gesagt es sei so also zack und kick)
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Spiel mittlerweile so n bisschen an den BER. Jahrelang Probleme, die irgendwie nicht gefixed werden.
Respawn sollte langsam mal aufwachen und sich ne Season lang auf FIXES konzentrieren...wenn das überhaupt möglich ist.
So lange wie die Squad Fill Option broken ist, wage ich zu bezweifeln, dass die überhaupt ne Ahnung haben, wie das zu fixen ist.
","body@stringLength":"385","rawBody":"Mich erinnert das Spiel mittlerweile so n bisschen an den BER. Jahrelang Probleme, die irgendwie nicht gefixed werden.
Respawn sollte langsam mal aufwachen und sich ne Season lang auf FIXES konzentrieren...wenn das überhaupt möglich ist.
So lange wie die Squad Fill Option broken ist, wage ich zu bezweifeln, dass die überhaupt ne Ahnung haben, wie das zu fixen ist.
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Apex Legends ist dabei wirklich ein großes Spiel mit vielen Spielern. Es wird dementsprechend durchgehend daran gearbeitet das Spielerlebnis zu verbessern auch was die Server oder Standorte betrifft.
Daher, dass aber Millionen spielen und alle irgendeine Meinung haben muss man natürlich die gesamte Community einbinden und sowie Feedback als auch mögliche Änderungen für alle berücksichtigen.
Als Spieler selbst denke ich dabei auch oftmals, dass XY so und so besser gebalanced und funktionieren würde. Jedoch zählen noch viele andere Faktoren in diese Entscheidung mit ein. Zum einen natürlich das Feedback von allen Seiten aber auch die Priorität. Wie ihr beispielsweise gemerkt habt, nachdem der Bocek Bogen direkt bei Release viel Kritik abbekommen hat, wurde er bereits eine Woche später abgeschwächt.
Gerade wenn also Feedback oder Anregungen gehäuft auftauchen, genauso wie aufkommende Probleme, kann ich diese gerne weiterleiten.
Zu den anderen erwähnten Problemen hat Respawn bereits eine gute Übersicht. Etwa bezüglich des Squad no-fill Problems wird es noch einen Fix angeplant für das Ende des Monats geben.
(Hier noch von Ryan Rigney angekündigt: https://www.reddit.com/r/apexlegends/comments/nuad89/dear_respawn_i_hope_you_can_see_this/h0x7xxk/?context=3)
Danke außerdem für euer Lob, ich werde dabei immer versuchen so gut ich kann zu antworten. 🙂
-Vendcera
Hey zusammen,
Apex Legends ist dabei wirklich ein großes Spiel mit vielen Spielern. Es wird dementsprechend durchgehend daran gearbeitet das Spielerlebnis zu verbessern auch was die Server oder Standorte betrifft.
Daher, dass aber Millionen spielen und alle irgendeine Meinung haben muss man natürlich die gesamte Community einbinden und sowie Feedback als auch mögliche Änderungen für alle berücksichtigen.
Als Spieler selbst denke ich dabei auch oftmals, dass XY so und so besser gebalanced und funktionieren würde. Jedoch zählen noch viele andere Faktoren in diese Entscheidung mit ein. Zum einen natürlich das Feedback von allen Seiten aber auch die Priorität. Wie ihr beispielsweise gemerkt habt, nachdem der Bocek Bogen direkt bei Release viel Kritik abbekommen hat, wurde er bereits eine Woche später abgeschwächt.
Gerade wenn also Feedback oder Anregungen gehäuft auftauchen, genauso wie aufkommende Probleme, kann ich diese gerne weiterleiten.
Zu den anderen erwähnten Problemen hat Respawn bereits eine gute Übersicht. Etwa bezüglich des Squad no-fill Problems wird es noch einen Fix angeplant für das Ende des Monats geben.
(Hier noch von Ryan Rigney angekündigt: https://www.reddit.com/r/apexlegends/comments/nuad89/dear_respawn_i_hope_you_can_see_this/h0x7xxk/?context=3)
Danke außerdem für euer Lob, ich werde dabei immer versuchen so gut ich kann zu antworten. 🙂
-Vendcera
\"Gerade wenn also Feedback oder Anregungen gehäuft auftauchen, genauso wie aufkommende Probleme, kann ich diese gerne weiterleiten.\"
Die Vermutung die ich habe ist, dass es Respawn nicht darum geht, was genau \"die Community\" möchte sondern was \"die Streamer\" kritisieren.
Wenn ein Aceu, ein shroud, ein Faide, ein Stormen oder andere große Streamer/Pro Gamer bestimmte Waffen online und öffentlich kritisieren, dann wird das seitens Respawn \"gehört\". Und bevor sich über diese Influencer ein Feuer entfacht, dass die gesamte Community erreicht, wird mit einem Patch oder Update schnell nachgebessert.
Wenn ich als kleines Licht hier aber meine Frust von der Seele schreibe, sich dann ein hipper Hugo dazugesellt und 1-2 weitere Likes kommen, dann wirkt das bei Respawn so wie ein Regentropfen auf einem heißen Stein.
Kritik und Verbesserungsvorschläge sind nicht gleich Kritik oder Verbesserungsvorschläge.
","body@stringLength":"1084","rawBody":"\"Gerade wenn also Feedback oder Anregungen gehäuft auftauchen, genauso wie aufkommende Probleme, kann ich diese gerne weiterleiten.\"
Die Vermutung die ich habe ist, dass es Respawn nicht darum geht, was genau \"die Community\" möchte sondern was \"die Streamer\" kritisieren.
Wenn ein Aceu, ein shroud, ein Faide, ein Stormen oder andere große Streamer/Pro Gamer bestimmte Waffen online und öffentlich kritisieren, dann wird das seitens Respawn \"gehört\". Und bevor sich über diese Influencer ein Feuer entfacht, dass die gesamte Community erreicht, wird mit einem Patch oder Update schnell nachgebessert.
Wenn ich als kleines Licht hier aber meine Frust von der Seele schreibe, sich dann ein hipper Hugo dazugesellt und 1-2 weitere Likes kommen, dann wirkt das bei Respawn so wie ein Regentropfen auf einem heißen Stein.
Kritik und Verbesserungsvorschläge sind nicht gleich Kritik oder Verbesserungsvorschläge.
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Und gerade der Casual bekommt SBMM in pubs zu spüren
es gibt ein Matchmaking in Casual? glaubst du doch selbst nicht und wenn doch woran soll das bitte festgemacht werden? wenn es das wirklich geben würde
dürfte ich bestimmte Spielergattungen niemals in einer Lobby sehen.
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Der Vergleich wurde hier schon gezogen: Zu Hunt:Showdown.
Ein Spiel, in dem das SBMM implementiert und immer wieder optimiert wurde. Das schreibt man sich dort groß auf die Flagge.
Zitat:
\"Currently, Hunt uses an ELO-like system where players are split into different brackets based on their PvP rating. Each region has several different brackets (ranging from 1 to 6), which are regularly updated to reflect the current player population.
When you start the queue for a match, the system will try to fill the match from other players in the same bracket. If it is unable to fill the match with players with a similar PvP rating, it will expand the search to other brackets until it fills as much of the lobby as possible.\"
Und ja, es würde bedeuten, dass man nach mehreren guten Spielen - ähnlich wie im Ranked (sofern es da sauber funktioniert) - in ein anderes Bracket rutscht und dort gegen gleichwertige Spieler spielt. Die K/D-Rate wird in Hunt nicht mit ins Matchmaking einbezogen.
Es fühlt sich einfach fairer an, wenn man gegen gleichgute Spieler spielt...nicht übermäßig dominiert aber auch nicht wegrasiert wird.
Jemand mit 25000 Kills auf einer Legende hat in meiner Lobby nichts zu suchen.
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Ebenso werd ich immer häufiger weggelasert sodas ich nicht mal mehr reagieren kann. heisst entweder sind die Server komisch oder die Spieler alle mehr als gut. Ich mein damit nicht
das man geoutplayed wird es gibt schlicht keine Reaktionszeit mehr. Kommt jetzt nicht immer vor aber öfter als in allen anderen Seasons zuvor das muss ja irgendwo dran liegen.
Ich will auch nicht jeden als Cheater hinstellen dennnoch glaube ich das irgendwas aktuell wirklich im argen liegt. Behaupte einfach mal das ich doch schon paar Stunden auf dem
Buckel hab in Apex und selbst die meisten meiner Freunde sagen das sie im Moment nicht mehr spielen weil es sich einfach nicht gut anfühlt.
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Also witzlos in Wahrheit für casual Gamer . Ich hab ja kein Problem wenn ich 50% draufgehe. Aber bei >90 % der Games sch ... Erfahrungen hat mir einfach gereicht. frustrieren kann ich mich anders auch. Ich hab prima Ersatz gefunden zwar ebenfalls mit Cheaterrproblematik aber dafür wesentlich angenehmeres Matchmaking
Alles Gute Euch
Übrigens schau ich manchmal hier rein um nachzuschauen ob es vielleicht besser wird...anscheinend nicht
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@whitebear87Ich komme auch aus der BF-Ecke. Für mich war BF4 das absolute Highlight - ewig lang und intensiv gespielt. Die Teile 1 und 5 sind total gefloppt - geht der neue Teil in diese Richtung, dann ist der auch schneller verschwunden, als ich Apex sagen kann.
Im positiven Fall bleiben beide Spiele in der Prioliste. Apex hat halt Aspekte, die ich in BF vermisse: Das Movement und das Waffengefühl. Auch die hohe TTK (Dank der Schildmechanik) liegt mir sehr.
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Dazu das desaströse Matchmaking heute - ich kotze im Strahl!
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@Anonymous Yo sag uns doch bitte welches Spiel besser für dich läuft, vielleicht schauen wir mal vorbei !!!!
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\n\nDas Auti-Fill der Squads funktioniert noch immer nicht...das haben wir schon mehrfach festgestellt.
\nAuch dass ich als normaler, mittelmäßiger Spieler gegen Predatoren oder Spieler mit 40.000 Kills auf einer Legende antreten muss ist bekannnt.
\nIch hatte aber gerade in letzter Zeit verstärkt das Gefühl, dass ich aus unmöglichen Winkeln weggeholt werde.
\n\nGerade eben ist es mir ganz besonders aufgefallen. Da werde ich mit der Charge-Rifle umgenietet, obwohl ich auf meinem Screen längst durch die Tür war.
\nDer Netcode ist wirklich zum erbrechen. Kenne ich aus den frühen BF4-Zeiten - aber Apex ist \"ein wenig\" neuer und sollte diese Probleme nicht mitbringen.
\nOder ich gucke schief...
\n\n[Video aufgrund Name&Shame Regel entfernt]
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Auch der besch***** Stepsound der seit 2 Jahren immer noch die volle Grütze ist , taucht immer zu auf.
Octane hört man , ist er im Speedmod hört man nix mehr.
Hestern schön von der Seite erwischt weil ich keine Steps gehört hab , stand ja nur 2 m neben mr.
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Hatte wie gesagt immer das Gefühl, dass man mich um Ecken wegholt oder durch Türen killt - das war meine erste wirkliche Bestätigung.
Hey @W3stminst3r,
ich habe das Video in Bezug auf unsere Name&Shame Regel entfernt.
Du hast aber natürlich recht und man sollte nicht so spät um die Ecke sterben. Sowas ist natürlich in jedem Shooter extrem frustrierend. Jedoch auch bei allen Verbesserungen wird man online über das Internet nie ein perfektes Spiel mit perfekten Netcode hinbekommen können. Durch die Ping Unterschiede lassen sich solche Situation leider nicht ganz vermeiden. Zum Glück kommen solche Extremfälle jedoch relativ selten vor.
-Vendcera
Zum Glück kommen solche extremen selten vor..
🤭🤭🤭😂😂😂
Au was hab ich mich jetzt weggekugelt vor Lachen.
Bei Apex gehört das ja schon zum Inventar.👍😘
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Diese Situationen werden von Respawn absichtlich heraufbeschworen, weil man den netcode dahin gehend programmiert hat, dass high ping Spieler oft im Vorteil sind.
Das haben sie in ihrem server, netcode und co blog post selbst geschrieben.
Diese Situationen werden verstärkt durch den unterirdischen netcode von ~20 Hz...dieser allein führt schon dazu, dass Spielerpositionen nahezu nie korrekt sind, vor allem bei schnellen Bewegungswechseln macht sich dies bemerkbar.
Dazu kommen Spieler, die sich vom anderen Ende der Welt auf EU Server connecten können mit Pings jenseits der 200ms. Das ist alles andere als fair für uns.
Da greift auch schon lange nicht mehr das Argument, dass Respawn Spieler mit schlechten Leitungen nicht immer benachteiligen möchte.
Der Fakt ist doch, dass man gefühlt zu 90 % in solchen Fällen auf Spieler aus Asien, respektive Russland, dem Nahen Osten, Südafrika und co trifft.
Hier MÜSSEN ganz klar ping limits eingeführt werden.
Andere Spiele entwickeln ihren netcode auch weiter...selbst das schäbige PUBG hat sich nach 1 bis 2 Jahren merklich weiterentwickelt.
Nur bei Apex und Respawn tritt man seit mittlertweile 2,5 Jahren auf der selben Stelle!
Wo geht die ganze Kohle hin, die sie verdienen???
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Video gelöscht?? Warum??
1) Es geht im Video nicht darum den Gegner schlecht zu machen - es geht um den Netcode im Spiel! Es ist also ein Video für den technischen Support!!
2) Dürfen ab sofort keine Gamingvideos mehr gepostet werden oder was soll das bedeuten?!
\n3) Es ist leicht gelöscht - mit einem Klick. Das Erstellen der Videos kostet aber immer Zeit und Energie: Video aufnehmen, ins Programm hochladen, zurechtschneiden, extrahieren mit den nötigen Parametern, auf Youtube hochladen, zusehen, dass es dort durch die Musikwahl nicht aneckt, Link hier posten.
Es war nun ein kleiner Schnipsel aber dennoch ist es respektlos gegenüber der Arbeit, die man in die Erstellung dieser Videos hineinsteckt.
4) Wenn ich Lags, Freezes, Disconnects kritisiere und sie mit Videomaterial hinterlege...soll ich per Videonachbearbeitung erst alle Namen rausschneiden oder wie stellt ihr euch das vor?
\n5) Und überhaupt: Wenn man wirklich Cheater per Video festhält, dann haben diese mit Einsatz eines Cheats ihr Recht auf Annonymität verwirkt. So etwas gehört angeprangert und ausgegrenzt. Solche Menschen haben kein \"Name & Shame\"- Schutz verdient sondern eine auf´s Maul. [entfernt]
Und um es mal deutlich zu machen:
Eure Server sind [entfernt] (haha, Filter ausgetrickst) !! Kannst du gerne so weitergeben - der letzte Müll und eine Schande/Blamage in der Shooterwelt.
Über Ibiza lacht die Sonne, über Respawn/EA die ganze Shootergemeinde.
Eben ein Spiel im Bullet Time gehabt...würde ich gerne ein Video von posten aber nuja...das Thema scheint durch zu sein.
Viele reden hier um den heißen Brei herum: \"Server sind nicht optimal\"...\"Server sind aber ausreichend\"....\"Kommt hier und da mal vor\"...
Gefühlt 70 % der Matches sind fürs Rektum. Durch einen Autofill der nicht funktioniert, ob durch Lags/Freezes, ob durch code:net, code:leaf, code:wheel, code:Blinddarm.
Man hört keine Schrittsounds, wird um´s Eck oder durch geschlossene Türen erschossen...
\n\nBiegt das gerade verdammt nochmal! Wir sind hier nicht im Kindergarten - hier spielen Profis (womit ich mich ausnehme).
Nehmt ein paar Moneten in die Hand (wovon ihr ausreichend habt) und stellt bessere Server hin. Oder wie lange soll das so weitergehen mit den 1000 Posts am Tag zum Thema und dem Vertrösten Eurerseits? EIn Jahr? Zwei?
👍💯%
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ich kann es gerne nochmal als Feedback weiterleiten, dass eine Ping Limitierung gewünscht ist. Durch die Ping Unterschiede kann es leider in der Tat passieren, dass man um Ecken stirbt. Aus meiner persönlichen Erfahrung meinte ich jedoch, dass dies relativ selten in Apex im Vergleich zu anderen Spielen passiert. Ideal ist es natürlich trotzdem nicht.
Am \"Netcode\" wird weiterhin gearbeitet, um das Spielerlebnis zu verbessern. So einfach wie einen Schalter umzulegen oder die Tickrate zu erhöhen, ist es allerdings nicht. Ich könnte zu diesem Punkt nochmal das Interview mit einem der Respawn Lead Engineers verlinken, wo noch weiter darauf eingegangen wird:
https://answers.ea.com/t5/Technische-Fragen/WIE-APEX-TICKT-EIN-ENTWICKLER-DEEP-DIVE-UBER-SERVER-UND-NETCODE/m-p/10312668#M6071
@W3stminst3r Ich danke dir für das Hochladen des Videos, aber da es direkt um das Beschweren eines Spielers ging, der dich um die Ecke getötet hat, sollte der ingame Name nicht gezeigt werden. Wir haben nun mal diese Regel, dass keine Personen an den Pranger gestellt werden.
Wenn du einen Spieler als Cheater verdächtigst, melde diesen stattdessen über offizielle Wege, denn hier im Forum können wir diesbezüglich auch nichts unternehmen.
Außerdem verstehe ich als Spieler selbst durchaus, wie die Gemüter bei solchen Themen hochkochen können und Kritik ist ein wichtiger Punkt. Dennoch würde ich bitten bei der Ausdrucksweise und Sprachwahl im Rahmen zu bleiben sonst müsste ich dieses Thema schließen und weitere Sanktionen verhängen.
Ich erinnere daran: Dies ist ein öffentliches Forum, auf welches durch Google auch von Kindern zugegriffen werden kann.
-Vendcera
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGlPbphlpBg
Passend zur Situation
10x gestorben weil es einfach nur noch beschissen lagt . Genau dann wen man in einer Schiesserei ist.
Warum wurde die Controllersteuerung wieder bearbeitet.
Neu : ungenau , schwammig , langsam etc.
Habem zu viele Twichers und Yts gejammert , das sie mit der Maus nicht gegenkommen oder was ist der Grund für derartige Veränderungen ?
So ein Hals aber echt
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