12 AP Arena Ranked
I have been gaining only 12 AP every match i win and losing 12 AP every match i lose. My friend (who is the same rank) is gaining 20/30+ every match we win even if i had beter stats i still only get...
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Hi @juliusmax5 !
Let me explain you how Ranked Arena's AP work.
Sometimes you play against people who are on lower rank than you, and sometimes on people who are on a higher one. Whenever you win a match agains a higher ranked team, you will gain more AP, and if you win against a lower ranked team you will gain less AP. That's why you are only getting 12 points, because matchmaking is making you play with lower ranked oponents, while your friend may be playing with higher ones.
If you want to read more about how AP works I'll leave this link to an official EA site that explains it perfectly. Hope I could help 🙂
https://www.ea.com/games/apex-legends/news/arenas-ranked
Let me explain you how Ranked Arena's AP work.
Sometimes you play against people who are on lower rank than you, and sometimes on people who are on a higher one. Whenever you win a match agains a higher ranked team, you will gain more AP, and if you win against a lower ranked team you will gain less AP. That's why you are only getting 12 points, because matchmaking is making you play with lower ranked oponents, while your friend may be playing with higher ones.
If you want to read more about how AP works I'll leave this link to an official EA site that explains it perfectly. Hope I could help 🙂
https://www.ea.com/games/apex-legends/news/arenas-ranked
@MrCarri-XTL;DR - You and your friend get placed in the same rank. You are better than him and are the carry, but the game will give him more RP because it considers him noob. So he will rank up faster than you, so it's based on performance but backwards
So 50% win rate, You lose 12 and you gain 12= go nowhere. Your friend will keep ranking up
it says ranking up is based strictly on wins, and not your individual performance. But your MMR is based off of your personal performance, so it is indeed based on performance but the person who is worse ranks up faster.
@BaldWraithSimp wrote:
So 50% win rate, You lose 12 and you gain 12= go nowhere. Your friend will keep ranking upI'd like to bring up a point about the matchmaking system that I haven't really seen people mentioning. Assuming that system is working well, said friend may rank up more quickly, but if they don't deserve that rank, they should get punished pretty quickly and sent back. Is arena rank able to drop, unlike ranked BR? It should, that's part of how an ELO system works. I keep comparing to Overwatch's ranking system, as it's similar and one I'm used to. In OW, if you get boosted to a rank you don't belong in, you're going to get knocked down hard.
@pandareno1999I don't think 12 points loss will have any hard hitting impact, particularly when you lump silver in Platinum lobbies anyway. Plus you will get Diamond rewards even if you derank from Diamond to Plat.
I get that point of Arena is not to reward any solo dolo behavior so your personal performance doesn't matter. But this philosophy takes a U turn when MMR based AP gain comes into play.
For example, let's say a team with 70(hypothetical number) MMR rating goes against a team of 85 MMR. The extra AP gained should take that into account instead of each individual members MMR, so each member gets the same points. (in my opinion)- @BaldWraithSimp Good idea. Just to be plain, I'm in no way saying the system is working well. Just trying to help understand how it's supposed to work.
Yeah it makes no sense ☹️ I was silver 1 my friends got to gold and even gold 2 and I'm still on silver, played the same matches... soon I won't be able to play with them any more..
Sorry for the die hard arena fans out there but I just think that arenas was a rushed mode in response to the popularity of Valorant for Respawn/EA to have piece of the pie of that popular game mode.
Is it possible to just get rid of ranked arenas permanently now that Control is here? The RP system is broken, the matchmaking is broken because not enough people are playing it and there’s no chance that there will be a pro scene in arenas. So either get rid of pub arenas or ranked arenas.
@Cheese9Man wrote:Sorry for the die hard arena fans out there but I just think that arenas was a rushed mode in response to the popularity of Valorant for Respawn/EA to have piece of the pie of that popular game mode.
Is it possible to just get rid of ranked arenas permanently now that Control is here? The RP system is broken, the matchmaking is broken because not enough people are playing it and there’s no chance that there will be a pro scene in arenas. So either get rid of pub arenas or ranked arenas.Its not that I am a fanboy of arenas but I think arena is a whole lot of fun when you play with a premade, I dont enjoy it as a random. But the RP system is just not working well at the moment and control cant be served as ranked mode in any competetive aspect if you dont have a 9 man premade. I do like that we have two ranked modes, Idd rather they make a scrollbar for more modes hehe. Control is just a way of getting chaotic gun action, I can like that too but for sitting down and actually trying to be serious with your team only BR and Arena works for that. From a soloplayers perspective I hear you @Cheese9Man then I agree as both control and BR are much better then arena, but from a premade perspective I favor BR and Arena over control in fun and focus. For ranked I dont mind having a mode for Arena as it caters to some people and arena is an easy mode to cater to esports for.
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