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4 years ago

Apex Legends SBMM doesn't work anymore HELP

This is my first post so please be kind if i don't make everything right here.

I normally don't post Stuff like this on Reddit or the Forum here but it has gotten to an Point where i can't enjoy ANY Round that I am playing anymore. The Apex Legends SBMM was perfectly fine when i started in Season 9 where the Genesis Event dropped and Season 10 was also very nice but after the first week of Season 11 the Matchmaker began to become such * that I can't enjoy anything in this Game anymore.

I constantly get into Diamond Lobbies at Minimum, Masters and even Pred Lobbies with an KD of currently 0.82 because i play ALOT. How does this happen???

My Stats at the Moment are this:
- Global Games: 3.70 Tsd.

- Global Wins: 137(!)

- Global Top 5: 682

- Global done Damage: 1,182,302

- Highest: 2,962 (only ONE Round, and 2k Damage Badge on 3 Legends in total after 3 Seasons(!))

- Averrage: 319.45

My Enemies Stats on Pred and Master Rounds:

- Octane with 87 THOUSAND Kills Pred 3

- Bangalore with 83 THOUSAND Kills Pred 3 and 20 MILLION Damage done which is 20x more then i have done GLOBAL

- Wraith Pred 3 with 11 THOUSAND Kills

- Bangalore Pred 3 in BR and Arenas with 77 THOUSAND Kills, 5388 Wins, 20,394,672 Damage Done which is again 20x more then I have Global(!) as shown in Screenshot below

- Octane Masters 2 with 31 THOUSAND Kills 9,204,702 Damage done which is 9x more Damage then i have done GLOBAL with EVERY Legend Combined

- Lifeline with no Master or Pred Badge but probably has minimum one of them since she was in the same Team: 33 THOUSAND Kills, 10,532,944 Damage done, which is 10x more then i have GLOBAL, DDM-Drone healing: 1,529,453

And that are just a few Examples. For the first ones I'm too lazy atm to search them in my 14k Screenshot on Steam but if you want i can search them for you.

European Servers are even worse then Season 11 in Season 12 and I just can't play on them anymore.

I get 1-2 Squads that are like me as Enemies and then we get rolled by Premade master or Pred Squads CONSTANTLY(!). My Teammates have worse stats then me most of the time which is ok but then I look who killed me and my Teammates and I nearly always see this Stats as shown above.

In an 4-9+ Hour Session(!) I get like 10-20 good Games with 1-4 Wins while all other Rounds last like 2 Minutes...

I don't * know what to do anymore since this * just keeps getting worse and worse and Apex is my most favourite Shooter out there at the Moment due to the Movement, Ingame Design, UI, HUD, Weapon Design and Weapons themselves etc.but as said, i get rolled EVERY * ROUND with minimum Diamond one Enemies with ALL Badges like 4k, 20 Bomb, Master 2 Squads or even Pred 3 with Stats as shown above and as an Screenshot.

Can someone from Respawn please look at this and work on an fix for this? Its going on since Season 11 and keeps getting worse and worse.

Also one thing to Mention: If i die off drop with like 200 Damage done i get worse Lobbies then when I do 1k Damage(!).

I have 1,023.7 Hours in this Game at the Moment but it is * hard to improve at all when you are playing against Diamonds, Masters and Preds that are already shooting at you perfectly with 100% Accuaricy when you don't even know that Enemies are around...

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34 Replies

pixelschubser3
4 years ago
*also here are my Stats at the Moment:
Cheese9Man
4 years ago
@pixelschubser3 I think you’re underestimating yourself. 😄
pixelschubser3
4 years ago
Maybe but I just can't compete with Preds really with this Stats.
Marge010
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
SBMM has been messed up for ages. I think it's mainly to keep the queues short for games although I do believe the matchmaking got worse in Season 11.
My stats were slowly improving but I really struggled last season. This season has been a little bit better but it's very hit and miss in terms of matchmaking. In terms of my skill level for ranked, plat 4 is the highest I've ever achieved but I see lots of masters and preds in pub lobbies most of the time.
pixelschubser3
4 years ago
I don't know about other Seasons but Season 9 and 10 where so balanced that i was able to try out new Characters for me like Lifeline with no Problem but now its practically nearly impossible :/
My highest one was Plat 4 flat on 0 Points too but only because you can't de-rank back to Gold after you hit Platinum and also because as said, I play ALOT but still... my Skill is on Silver or Gold Level and not Pred 3 as the Matchmaker seems to think.
PsyhiX69
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
The way I see the SBMM is that it purposefully weakens teams in the pre-stack master/predator lobbies, so they can harvest You like crops.
I have been in such lobbies also, but I immediately d/c. Sometimes for SBMM to "derank" me (in PUBS!), I had to d/c up to 10-15 times in a ROW to not see pre-stacked master/preds... but even after such many disconnections I am still in lobby with a master or predator.
In short these lobbies are not for You to win, they are for them. SBMM purposefully gives You weak teammates, like it does to me.
The SBMM is actually EOMM (engagement optimized matchmaking), and as You can see in these master/predator statistics it works perfectly for them, they ARE ENGAGED.
HappyHourSumwur
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@pixelschubser3 Your post captures my experience and my biggest frustration with Apex perfectly. My stats are about the same as yours, too. The complete lack of communication on the topic from Respawn just makes it worse.
ShidWidley69420
4 years ago
Its always been this way @pixelschubser3
and will never change. they don't care as long as the money keep flowing.
Axs5626Sxa5001
4 years ago
@pixelschubser3 Please exclusively play ranked. This will give you a tighter matchmaking experience.

Pubs are casual and the experience will vary. Sometimes you engage an average player and sometimes you engage a masters squad. Unless of course you have a very high ELO, then pubs will be all high diamond to Pred players.

Is your entire lobby 57 Masters players?
pixelschubser3
4 years ago
Thats what i have already done in Season 11 and thats the only Reason i started playing Ranked in General. The Problem there are the Smurfs and Hackers all the Way to Plat 4 and there you have de-ranked Diamond and Master Players :/ - as well as Preds that are doing this Bullsh*t that needs to be banned in my Opinion like "hOw LoNg dOEs iT tAkE mE to GeT frOm BrONcE tO PrED again?!??!?!?!?1111!?!?!?!?!"...
Or "Bronce to Pred in one Stream" kind of BS.
No, my Lobbies are mostly mixed but minimum 10 Teams in the Lobbies in Trios are Masters or Diamonds and 50% or more of the Lobby has the 4k Badges that i still don't have after 1000+ Hours in this Game.
When I see an Pred Squad in the Champion Screen there are mostly like 2-5 Pred Teams in this Lobby also.
[CM - Edited for profanity]