Are you guys MAD! THE Havoc!
This is the worst thing I have EVER SEEN!!! Each game is the same! Tryhards, running around the map, with Havocs dumping 32 round high DPS damage constantly! Constantly Lasering 50m and less! How...
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Anybody that can control a havoc knows how much of a devastating headshot cannon it can be.
With a x2 multiplier that's 36 damage per headshot, with the havocs firerate and vertical recoil that makes headshots incredibly easy to land. It's raw dps comparison is irrelevant when you factor in the odds of 3 or 4 headshots in the mix.Put that in a skilled players hands and it's pretty damn hard to kill them.
We all know the havoc counter tactics but its just rarely that clean cut, fights are rarely 1v1 in apex and while that havoc users got you cover hugging you're at a disadvantage in the grand scheme of that battle.
@MandatoryIDtag The best thing about the havoc is that it recoils straight up. You start shooting their chest and wham headshot city as you get it under control. A really good player with it is nasty. I'm not that good but love it, tho I also carry it for its longer range versatility with the selectfire.
This game is built around looting and developing your guns. The Havoc requires no development— it performs like a fully kitted weapon. And it’s very very common.
If you don’t think that’s problematic then you are overlooking what this BR was meant to be.
It's funny how they removed turbocharger, extended energy mags and buffed considerably the havoc because they wanted people to use it, and now in S5 probably it will get nerfed and be again a secondary AR lol.
@Cro_Pittt It just needs a bit of a mag nerf, i'm quite happy for it to remain both powerful and viable but 32 shots straight from pick up is too much.
I would suggest dropping it to 26 shots per clip, BUT reducing the ammo cost per shot for the select fire mode.
That's still 468 damage per full clip....nothing to shrug off as a minor threat.
@hayhor Yup agreed, that's what i was saying initially, the verti recoil further enables that capacity for headshots as you literally only have to hold backwards lightly.
- @Axs5626Sxa5001 And... how about the wingman or spitfire? Or peacekeeper?
- @Koochi-Q
The Wingman takes considerably more skill to use than the Havoc, and still only has 5 shots in its base form. The Havoc does a LOT more damage with 32 shots than the Wingman’s 5. It’s simply too damn viable in its base form. And yes, the Spitfire has a large base mag, but pretty poor damage per second compared to the Havoc.
