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Vdstrk
3 years agoSeasoned Ace
@PeterN_UK
to further the experience, imagine cheating in a game in which most players will never, and I repeat NEVER, amount to ANYTHING. Nothing. 0. Nada.
It does not go on your professional resumes, except for the few who can really embrace gaming as a career, through being blessed with superior skills, or exceptionally undetectable cheats... either way. I guess my point here is, if you have played 2K games and are still meh... chances are good that you will improve marginally, but not to the point of being a "pro".
That does not have to discourage anyone, nevertheless the best won't be "the best" unless a slew of meh, and average players will be there to afford them the luxury to shine. Yet, these very so called "best" player shy not from calling other players "bots", "braindead" etc., effectively insulting the vast majority of players. What arrogance, isn't it?
I guess they set the example, and get supported for that behavior (through donations and subscriptions).
That said, there is a way to enjoy apex. With friends, or friendly team mates. If winning or losing won't matter that much then I believe there are quite a few decent people out there with whom playing can just be the type of experience you are looking for.
to further the experience, imagine cheating in a game in which most players will never, and I repeat NEVER, amount to ANYTHING. Nothing. 0. Nada.
It does not go on your professional resumes, except for the few who can really embrace gaming as a career, through being blessed with superior skills, or exceptionally undetectable cheats... either way. I guess my point here is, if you have played 2K games and are still meh... chances are good that you will improve marginally, but not to the point of being a "pro".
That does not have to discourage anyone, nevertheless the best won't be "the best" unless a slew of meh, and average players will be there to afford them the luxury to shine. Yet, these very so called "best" player shy not from calling other players "bots", "braindead" etc., effectively insulting the vast majority of players. What arrogance, isn't it?
I guess they set the example, and get supported for that behavior (through donations and subscriptions).
That said, there is a way to enjoy apex. With friends, or friendly team mates. If winning or losing won't matter that much then I believe there are quite a few decent people out there with whom playing can just be the type of experience you are looking for.
reconzero
3 years agoSeasoned Ace
@Vdstrk
Well said.
I never had any use for sports in general, professional or otherwise - but at least professional athletes USED to have some kind of code about what they would and would not say publically about competitors, teammates, coaches, owners, spouses, or life in general. That's certainly begun to break down, but in Esports it never even was. It's always been a crapfest where anyone can say almost anything they want and rarely is anyone held to account. I'll be watching to see how this whole nickmercs thing goes. I know it isn't exactly the same thing... but really it sort of is.
Well said.
I never had any use for sports in general, professional or otherwise - but at least professional athletes USED to have some kind of code about what they would and would not say publically about competitors, teammates, coaches, owners, spouses, or life in general. That's certainly begun to break down, but in Esports it never even was. It's always been a crapfest where anyone can say almost anything they want and rarely is anyone held to account. I'll be watching to see how this whole nickmercs thing goes. I know it isn't exactly the same thing... but really it sort of is.
- 3 years ago
@reconzeroIm not so sure about that, in many professional sports the athletes go wild against their rivals.
Example ? El Classico(Real Madrid vs Barca)
Atleast 50% of their matches end in fights
Sergio Ramos and Pepe were prime examples of highest tier footballplayers.
Not * on them, I love Sergio Ramos but damn that man uses every nasty foul trick etc to win. If it means to get rid of the enemy player than he was willing to do it.- reconzero3 years agoSeasoned Ace@matzesingt
@hayhor
I'm thinking back to my childhood. In the middle ages. It was a different time. Not necessarily a better one, just different. Public figures were a lot more circumspect with their opinions, and I don't remember any athletes trash talking their opponents, at least not on network television or in the newspapers. Funny, that. Those hardly even exist anymore.- Kyldenar3 years agoSeasoned Ace
@reconzero wrote:
@matzesingt
@hayhor
I'm thinking back to my childhood. In the middle ages. It was a different time. Not necessarily a better one, just different. Public figures were a lot more circumspect with their opinions, and I don't remember any athletes trash talking their opponents, at least not on network television or in the newspapers. Funny, that. Those hardly even exist anymore.Because the gift we got from 'social media' was the removal of public shame and now all the village idiots get to gather in one place and think they are smart instead of being properly isolated from others.
- hayhor3 years agoHero@reconzero Wait are you trying to tell me athletes used to not trash talk each other? Is it because it didn't happen or because the media didn't understand the affect it had on ratings? I don't believe for a second they didnt.
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