Average players with godlike aim
Last few days I’m getting placed in lobbies of average players with average amount of kills and average badges, who all seem to have better aim than shroud. They do NOT miss a bullet. I just played ...
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It was sarcasm. I know that not every discussion degenerates into an aim assist debate. But you could go through the first page of "general discussion" and count up the ones that have. I don't want to say, "It's more than it needs to be," because it DOES warrant a lot of discussion. The flip side of the coin is that there are people on these forums who will turn almost any topic into "aim assist" or "eomm" discussions. Sometimes on the thinnest of pretexts. Well, we're all entitled to our pet peeves.
It was sarcasm. I know that not every discussion degenerates into an aim assist debate. But you could go through the first page of "general discussion" and count up the ones that have. I don't want to say, "It's more than it needs to be," because it DOES warrant a lot of discussion. The flip side of the coin is that there are people on these forums who will turn almost any topic into "aim assist" or "eomm" discussions. Sometimes on the thinnest of pretexts. Well, we're all entitled to our pet peeves.
@reconzero Sure, the flip side really is that you won't think about it. I've never seen you even consider another angle about anything. You more likely seem to troll one POV perpetually, no matter how flawed - you will find some excuse. And this is as flawed as it comes because you don't even know the opposition so how can you then understand it? You seem to have such strong opinions that you convince yourself of it which makes any interaction with you one sided and lame tbh.
You need to wake up tho. AA enables poor players to achieve good results quickly, and developers abuse this to sell their games. End of story.
You need to wake up tho. AA enables poor players to achieve good results quickly, and developers abuse this to sell their games. End of story.
- @f9nbd8sgnp7l
"AA enables poor players to achieve good results quickly, and developers abuse this to sell their games."
Are we talking about all aa, or just pc players using controllers to access it? If you're talking about aa across the board, including on consoles, then what will the shooter landscape look like if aa suddenly was pulled from this game? From all shooters? From just new and upcoming shooters? I'm not begging an answer here, I'm just trying to imagine whether or not our addiction to aim assist is beyond repair or not.@reconzeroWell that guy had a good point with “AA enables poor players to achieve good results quickly, and developers abuse this to sell their games. End of story“
That’s why it got created in the first place in the beginning and I mean all the way back in the beginning to singleplayer shooters etc.
But time changed, skill ceiling increased drastically over the last 20 years, it’s time to reevaluate the possibilities, I’ve seen enough incredible controllerplayers without aimassist performing on top lvl that you would never guess it’s without aa.
Aa exists now mainly for the casuals, if just apex removes aa then they might Tank some players, but also will get some back that left because of the state of aa and mnk.if aa gets removed from every shooter we probably wouldn’t even lose players we would probably lose some controller pro‘s but that’s about it I guess
The industry needs to shift, I’m glad valorant csgo etc are not screwing around with aa because the truth is the next step on that ladder would be that mnk gets aimassist to compete vs controller aimassistwhat I mean by that is, if you give mnk now it 0.2-3 aa it would probably even out and be actually fair, but do we really wanna go there ? I personally don’t… what could come after ? Maybe we give higher aimassist to people with sicknesses or older age ? Cool I am 35 my reflexes went down over the last 10 years or so, I still hit master in apex relatively easy especially with controller but with mnk the reactiontime starts to impact my trackigncappability. And I used to be a high tier cs player so I would argue my reactiontime is still very good but definetly not what it was when I was 20 🙂
- @matzesingt
Well said. I guess I'm torn on the issue because removing aa will only widen the skill gap. And that would be okay if guns weren't already crippled with aim-fighting mechanics. Or if sbmm worked. Ever. But it doesn't. There's definitely an intellectual appeal to a truly level playing field, but that would, for me, rely on segregated lobbies. It would be hard enough to re-learn how to shoot against console players I knew were on an equal footing, but pc players have advantages controller players don't, or so I'm led to believe. And that would make the re-learn entirely not worth the trouble. Hence why we have the platform aa gap to begin with?
I think what this all boils down to is something you hit on perfectly: "Aa exists now mainly for the casuals...." I'm skeptical though about "if apex removes aa then they might Tank some players, but also will get some back that left." I'm not sure what percentage of the player base identifies as casual and what percentage as seriously competitive, but I would guess the game would lose far more players than it would gain back. Call me old and lazy, and you wouldn't be wrong on either count, but I doubt I'd stick around for that kind of grind.
- @reconzero Heh, man, you see? You go off into some word rant about what exactly? You said stuff without saying stuff.
Look, if a company can use aa to make the game or guns "feel good" then you have a banger on your hands. This game, the more I think of it, was made to make new players succeed and older players fail more. New players succeed and spend. Later on they find out what's what. I do not care for whatever you play on or whatever you decide to use, just stay away from me if we do not have the same 🙂 Or at least give me the choice do opt out 🙂- @px8zron0u5yi
"Heh, man, you see? You go off into some word rant about what exactly? You said stuff without saying stuff."
Got it. Smaller words, shorter sentences.
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