Honesty regarding Pathfinder Nerf

@pastaclownNo harm is done. When the other party is civil and I know them to be civil in discussions and give their side of the story I can be civil (yea you read that right forum dwellers :P). I’ve seen your other discussions with other people so I know you’re not one to easily take offense to a post and can come with actual opinions of your own instead of the rehashed ones that everyone used backed up with arguments.

I too apologize. I try to see things from all other ppl’s sides to which sometimes I look at my stuff like ‘this is 100% what I wanted to say’ and then ppl don’t understand exactly what I’m trying to say or even take it the wrong way (happens more when I’m direct) and figured, this was such a case, yet this time I did it on purpose, not to go ‘ha gotya’ but to have a discussion on the matter, as I’ve said before. So I can definitely see why you could take my post the wrong way. That’s the part of internet that’s not gonna change soon... how the text should be perceived. Do it with smileyfaces and emoticons/emojis like I usually do and people know/think you’re (somewhat) joking(ly) saying stuff. Work without them and you have no idea... damn internet

Lolz as you’ve said. You dealt with ‘em, I did as well. Heck, anybody worth their time online has dealt with ‘em. Nowadays ‘worth their time’ can be as much as 1 hour online and you already deal with ‘em. As I said before, this is why I kept it civil cause I know you were stating your case instead of character attacking me. But screwed up part about me is I like having a discussion. Even if I’m losing. I’m like a saiyan. If I’m beat, I’ll get stronger for the next fight :P

So yea my opinion on the nerf itself as you’ve seen is that I’m in favor of the nerf itself, yet the severity I found too high. Just as I did with Wraith’s. This is not even taking into account the 15 -> 35 part. Going 133% higher or lower definitely is a bad idea and I feel as a mobility character (they should really make new subclasses cause medic? Come on... same with Loba...) to have the sense of mobility taken away so dramatically is unjustified.
If you take into account that ppl are accustomed to having it ‘basically’ ready at all times to going to ‘come on, come on!’ is harsh. That said, I do not and have never seen Path as OP and likely never will, as a legend that is. Was he OP in the mobility department, definitely, if used correctly. You have wannabe spiderman’s who can’t swing from one end of the toilet to the other, but then you see one that can swing over the Burj Khalifa from ground level in one swing. Everytime you think you get close to your teammate he’s already 200m away and ends up being dead. But as a legend he was alright. Questionable hitbox, definitely.
This change however does warrant a new playstyle like others have said. If you couldn’t kill a path and he swings away you basically had to hope he didn’t know what he was doing, was really really low or had to have good aim cause if you were going after him, by the time you caught up, he’d almost always had shield back up or was already aiming at another surface to go-go-gadget his sling towards. Now they at least can’t do that.
So I think to have Path be viable to play again (cause that stupid skinny robody (trademarked it ppl!) of his still weird it seems) needs an adjustment. Either lower cooldown to 20-23 OR have some kind of weird limited version of his swing. Cause now to properly swing you just need to look the other way until you swing to get a boost. Lets say if you chain your grapple at full length, path is not allowed to fully contort himself to go as far as he could do now. If you grapple from shorter distance, you can do it to basically ‘ensure’ that you can still get away but that you’re not trying to fly up to the stratosphere or going mach 1 straightforward anymore?

Even I think the 2nd one is a bad idea but idea nonetheless. That way paths can keep the 15s cooldown cause they can’t leap into another dimension anymore and teammates can still somewhat keep up.

Thanks for asking my opinion on the matter.

@apostolateofDOOMHEY! What happened to your pic. I almost didn’t recognize you! Bad DOOM member, bad *smacks like Eric Cartman smacked that thing with a stick*. 2nd, they did it on purpose! @EA_David was certainly in cahoots with @MandatoryIDtag to not have you see your post! :P

And in addition to my original post, I have a hypothetical question that’s lingering on my mind:

The change from 15 to 35 seconds seems pretty intentional. The devs seem to be making a very clear point as where the want Path to be regarding viability.

But what happens if Pathfinder continues to have the highest “pick rate” amongst the Legends— will this result in yet another nerf?

I know the devs want to balance the game to the best of their ability and they often look to pick rate as one of the important measures to see how viable a character is amongst the player community. Wraith and Pathfinder have been the clear top characters since day one and those characters have subsequently seen a series of nerfs (where as less popular characters like Gibby were given buffs to increase viability and pick rate). Although Gibby’s pick rate has seen an increase, Wraith and Pathfinder continue to be the top picks for casual players and in competitive play.

I’m just concerned that people will continue to pick Pathfinder because the grappling hook function is still the most fun feature in the game and this will prompt additional changes to the character to get players to stop picking him. That would suck.

@Axs5626Sxa5001 totally. Path was my main and now playing him isn't that fun anymore when his tactical feels like an ultimate.

@Koochi-Q I like to mix it up each season and keep people on their toes! 🤫

I can believe it! @MandatoryIDtag hasn't said a word to me since the upgrade post but gave XP and laughed knowing I lost all my work and had to redo it. He really is nasty! As to whether @EA_David was collaborating, maybe he just wanted to first see me squirm before saving the day! 😛

@Koochi-Q  First of all, congrats on finishing that novel you posted a few comments back, it gave war and peace a run for it's money. XD

@apostolateofDOOM  I'm not nasty, just apathetic. 😛