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6 years ago

How are people able to hack in 2019?

Just went off against a guy with 2k+ kills. No biggie, nothing unusual with the kills. Lucky me, because I landed one landing zone over from him! The guy wipes out my entire squad (my two random mate...

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Anlbrd

6 years ago

@DYSPROssium With things like counterstrike the paywall didn't make a huge difference by my recollection.

What would be good would be the implementation of BOTH options that people consistently talk about. A small paywall AND the requirement of level 100 to join ranked.

Players could join ranked then with some degree of confidence that they're meeting fewer cheaters.

DYSPROssium

Hero (Retired)

6 years ago

Maybe level 100 is a bit exaggerated. I would prefer level 40 or 50 or something similar. That would give time enough to deal with most of the (blatant) cheaters.

As for the paywall, I've seen the opposite effect in Star Wars Battlefront 2015. The price of that game at launch was about 60,- and after a year it dropped to 5,- or something similar. Cheaters became more and more present when below 10,- (and actually still run free through the game...)

Apex being a free battle royale just inherently means that the anti-cheat needs to be very good. I am curious to see what would happen if you ask a small fee for playing, but that is most certainly not going to happen.

DaAceXD
6 years ago
@DYSPROssium wrote:
Maybe level 100 is a bit exaggerated. I would prefer level 40 or 50 or something similar. That would give time enough to deal with most of the (blatant) cheaters.
As for the paywall, I've seen the opposite effect in Star Wars Battlefront 2015. The price of that game at launch was about 60,- and after a year it dropped to 5,- or something similar. Cheaters became more and more present when below 10,- (and actually still run free through the game...)
Apex being a free battle royale just inherently means that the anti-cheat needs to be very good. I am curious to see what would happen if you ask a small fee for playing, but that is most certainly not going to happen.
Its not just smart defence.
The anti cheat programmers have to find all the ways the different cheating programs work.
Make a defence for all of them.
Because there is not 1 aimbot out there but more like 1000's of different aimbots.
Same with all the other cheating software.
While cheats are using their aimbots right now, The hackers that create the cheats are not stopping and waiting untill the next update before they start making a aimbot.
They are already comming up with new ways and new programs and they will release them the moment their old cheats won't work anymore.
Thats why there are cheaters out there so soon after a update.
Its a never ending fight unless you put all the people in the same room on controlled PC's.
But there are ways to controll the cheater problem in smarter ways then they are doing now.
- You buy the battlepas for season 2, En with that you are allowed to play ranked. ( This stops smurfing and cheating by a lot! )
If you want to keep the game free to play:
- Now that there are ranked plays with higher tiers, They should actively search and keep the higher tiers clean.
Its 100x more frustrating to die to a cheater when playing in a high tier and lose points. Over being in bronze or even non ranked.
It will also take the cheater a long time to get up to the higher ranks again, because everybody starts bronze.
Also higher tier players often are more accurate with the reports.
They know what is humanly possible and what is not.
I think the biggest problem with the reports system now is that most people can't tell the difference between a cheater and a good player.
Unless there is a obvious aimbot ofc.
And those people are reporting. And causing a overflow of work for the people who have to check them out.