So yeah as above in the title.Getting a little fed up of being shot through cover lol.I've developed a weird tick where I count to 5 everytime i step into cover during a gunfight...and i had one instance last night where i was behind cover for 3 seconds and still taking goddamn bullet damage.3 seconds doesn't sound much but when you've ran around a corner and moved a few metres before getting knocked, and then you turn around actually see your shooter come lagging around the corner its deeply infuriating.It seems deeply unfair that players who are spending money on a better ISP should be at a disadvantage.Match me with players of similar ping!

@MandatoryIDtag Fair play, that sucks . Well then - brand new refreshing idea that’s never been suggested and EA will definitely implement- they could always just spend some of the millions they’ve earned from this game on upgrading the existing infrastructure to make it more playable for everyone everywhere ! Or just idk make a new heirloom event instead .

@xMaxrayx I'm complaining because it's bs.Like i said in the OP I'd rather be amongst players of a similar ping then there is no advantage here or there that way.It's pretty simple concept to grasp lol. I want my matches as close to real-time as possible.This game has the worst experience for this compared to many others.Your "peak" advantage is literally irrelevant in a squad fight, its based purely on a 1v1 scenario which is extremely rare in apex.If this was solo's the would be another story entirely, however it isn't so this issue is pretty impactful on gameplay.

@MandatoryIDtagUnfortunately, this is not possible, because ping can be different from match to match and delay needs to be checked for longer than a couple of seconds to get a realistic average. I've had games where ping started as 40-50ms but increased to 90-100ms and I really felt the difference(got shot behind cover, had no chance to win some 1v1s because enemy hits registered way before mine, etc.). Another thing, even with a good average ping, things go south fast when server is burdened or there's a lag spike.About ISPs, doesn't matter how good they are, they are not optimally tuned for gaming. They need to be inexpensive, stable and get as many clients as possible. It's more about quantity rather than quality. And it's normal, 3 clients that just browse, watch videos and shop online don't care about 100ms + ping or routing and pay 3 times as much as one gamer, that needs large bandwidth, higher end hardware and optimal routing to ensure a steady connection with the lowest possible ping. The same can be said about the servers in the public cloud.

@MassiveVernon wrote:@MandatoryIDtag Or just stop allowing people to play on servers miles away from them ? Not every country has servers installed, so idk what you are trying to say.

@DoYaSeeMe Doesn't CoD use a ping derived MM system? I've watched the matchmaking there and it starts at 13m/s and expands the longer the lobby population takes. You're far more educated than myself on these matters but yeah. 😛@MassiveVernon In some cases it can't be helped, Africa example doesn't even have a data centre as far as i'm aware.Its an infrastructure issue, there is plans to build a number of data centres in areas of the world sorely lacking but most of the completion dates are between 2022-2025 lol. ☹️

Is Ping actually factored into the matchmaking system?

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MassiveVernon
5 years ago
@MandatoryIDtag Yes please . Or just stop allowing people to play on servers miles away from them ? Never really understood that atall and surely that just makes it worse for everyone . I’m sick of having random people literally teleporting about cause of how bad they’re lagging and yeah getting shot behind cover is getting old too lol
maximas1986
5 years ago
@MandatoryIDtag even one second is too much mate, one second is enough to receive 3 shots by R99
GH0STEDbyME
Hero
5 years ago
@MandatoryIDtag behind cover, round corners, behind closed doors...same old bs xD Ping is definitely not taken into consideration.
DoYaSeeMe
5 years ago
@MandatoryIDtagUnfortunately, this is not possible, because ping can be different from match to match and delay needs to be checked for longer than a couple of seconds to get a realistic average. I've had games where ping started as 40-50ms but increased to 90-100ms and I really felt the difference(got shot behind cover, had no chance to win some 1v1s because enemy hits registered way before mine, etc.). Another thing, even with a good average ping, things go south fast when server is burdened or there's a lag spike.

About ISPs, doesn't matter how good they are, they are not optimally tuned for gaming. They need to be inexpensive, stable and get as many clients as possible. It's more about quantity rather than quality. And it's normal, 3 clients that just browse, watch videos and shop online don't care about 100ms + ping or routing and pay 3 times as much as one gamer, that needs large bandwidth, higher end hardware and optimal routing to ensure a steady connection with the lowest possible ping. The same can be said about the servers in the public cloud.
BaldWraithSimp
5 years ago
@MassiveVernon wrote:
@MandatoryIDtag Or just stop allowing people to play on servers miles away from them ?
Not every country has servers installed, so idk what you are trying to say.
MassiveVernon
5 years ago
@BaldWraithSimpThen make servers for those countries lol . Or allocate them the closest one ?
MandatoryIDtag
5 years ago
@DoYaSeeMe Doesn't CoD use a ping derived MM system? I've watched the matchmaking there and it starts at 13m/s and expands the longer the lobby population takes. You're far more educated than myself on these matters but yeah. 😛
@MassiveVernon In some cases it can't be helped, Africa example doesn't even have a data centre as far as i'm aware.
Its an infrastructure issue, there is plans to build a number of data centres in areas of the world sorely lacking but most of the completion dates are between 2022-2025 lol. ☹️
MassiveVernon
5 years ago
@MandatoryIDtag Fair play, that sucks . Well then - brand new refreshing idea that’s never been suggested and EA will definitely implement- they could always just spend some of the millions they’ve earned from this game on upgrading the existing infrastructure to make it more playable for everyone everywhere ! Or just idk make a new heirloom event instead .
MandatoryIDtag
5 years ago
@MassiveVernon oh you are funny.
Cosmetic event it is!
BaldWraithSimp
5 years ago
@MassiveVernon Yeah, I would play on the closest one but Bahrain servers are dead(like really dead). I play on the second closest(ping increase 15-20 ms). I get around 110-120ms.

The 'shoot enemies behind cover' starts at 180+ ms btw.