King's Canyon

@swift07 it's better than storm point at least

@swift07 Always has been. The shorter ring timing just makes it that much worse. 3rd parties and gate keepers everywhere.

@swift07 The map was excellent before they removed the jump towers and blocked rotation points.

3rding happens on every map in every BR.

@swift07

I've always found 3rd partying to be a player thing, not so much a map thing.

@reconzero There is a skill in knowing where and when to take fights. People won't admit it but knowing when to disengage and rotate is also a skill.

@reconzero I think it's a map thing. If the maps designed to leave a lot of openings where players can see other teams from a distance, most likely if a player has a sniper, they'll start shooting them. Look at KC, there are valleys and lots of high ground. Most of the map is out in the open.

@reconzero of course there are people who purposely look for 3rd parties (while they pitch a tent a mile away from danger), but the design of the map can influence how players play.

@kittysune I actually prefer SP. At least there is more cover on SP than KC. There are so many areas where you can get shot from so many different angles. Also, with this ring change, it makes it difficult to rotate in certain areas.

@hayhor it's tough when you're a solo q'er to get your random noobs to listen. They all think they're Timmy or Faide.