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Pluhgins
7 years ago

Nerf Caustic Please

Seriously, Nerf Caustic and maybe even Bangalore,

Kind of a huge overload of missiles for Bangalore, but overall it's not too bad.

Caustic can deploy 3 smoke areas which slow you down way too much and deal a ton of damage, while he can continuously throw gas grenades which do the same, even after having max shield and max health I died purely from his gas, def needs a nerf. This isn't only because "1 guy killed me" but rather a ongoing and repeated thing that's happened with multiple face-off's with Caustic players

Way too OP in my opinion

Positive feedback and actual arguments that aren't hateful are appreciated, thanks.

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  • DarthValtrex's avatar
    DarthValtrex
    Hero (Retired)
    6 years ago
    @Pluhgins He is not OP by any measure. For starters, you can avoid his gas most of the time. You can also avoid his gas grenade. The nade beeps when it goes off, so just pull back when you hear it.

    If you’re camping a building and get gassed to death, that is on you. You either shouldn’t be camping or were losing the fight to begin with and were forced in there.

    There are only a few instances in which his gas can be hugely beneficial. The rest of the time he is weak due to his larger hit box.

    You also have to keep in mind his gas negatively impacts his own teammates. They can’t see, so if the enemy team has a caustic and your caustic is down, your team is at a slight disadvantage.

    Bang is not OP either. Her smoke can be used against the team that popped it. You can also see through it with a blood hound or a digital threat. The other option is to hang back from it slightly and look for the enemy team in the smoke.. you can see them but they can’t see you. I got a squad wipe against a bang solo with nothing but a flatline and alternator. They killed my squad mate, i jump down finish off the bang with the flatline.. run out of ammo grab the alternator.. smoke is partially in the room. I hang on the edge of it. The bloodhound comes in, he can’t see me but I can see his outline.. he is dead.. the octane comes in and I’m at half life. I do the same to the octane using their bangs smoke against them.

    Bangs barrage can be avoided as well. You are warned when it’s coming, so you either take cover or run. Even if you can’t avoid it, the most damage I’ve done with it is maybe 40 per hit, 70 or so to one player who ran into 2 barrage hits.
  • SYNFIRExWR3X's avatar
    SYNFIRExWR3X
    6 years ago
    @Pluhgins Run Caustic for 150 straight kills and see how difficult he actually is to use, he is very easy to avoid and in a open field he is by far the most disadvantaged Legend in the game. Compare him to Gibby and buffing Caustic would be laughable, he is almost falling behind other legends who are receiving Buffs.
  • xen775's avatar
    xen775
    6 years ago

    He is most definitely NOT the least played character, now to be fair I tend to be in gold/plat area for rank, (so about low/mid tier) but if i did a spreadsheet of how many teams have caustic as of right now-next patch guarenteed most teams in those tiers will have caustic. I will say thay the pros say hes the worst legend but lets put it this way, most players aren't pros and for the majority hes a pain in the butt, strangely enough when you play with a random player as him on your team.

    • Personally the only changes i see as him needing is blindness or slow need to go and the traps be smaller (for a lower chance of being spotted) and destructable from top or bottom. His ulti is a different story, depending on if and which they removed from his rather long line of abilities accociated with his traps, personally i cab only see 1 buff they could add, its pretty slow, right now i actually see it as somewhat  balanced, but without slow it should be a larger radius and without blind it should be quite a bit faster to throw
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    • Finally for those who are defending him for long range battles, while not necessarily intended, you can use your traps as a wonderful little wall to block bullets. Yes alone its not really that great of an ability, but in conjunction to the fact he can easily lock down areas (possibly without anyones knowledge) it makes him a mid tier nightmare.
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    • Sure ive killed plenty of caustic, and plenty of players as him have killed me, but he does need a rebalance, not necessarily a nerf and not a debuff something that makes it so you can actually play with him (together or against) instead of around him.

    Now as a final statement this is more nitpicking but caustic as you can google is an actual gas that causes irritation to the lungs and eyes so by all means pathfinder, revenant, and bloodhound (bloodhound has a respirator) should be immune or at least bloodhound because i can understand cooling issues with robots so damage would make sense but not blindness. 

    Long post here is a potato (* . )

  • BigBlackCaustic's avatar
    BigBlackCaustic
    6 years ago
    @Pluhgins How do get in situations where you die purely from the gas in the first place? And that happens regularly?
    I can trll you that your problem with Caustics is between your chair and your monitor.
  • BigBlackCaustic's avatar
    BigBlackCaustic
    6 years ago

    @xen775So make it useless by not being an actual threat. Got it.

    Also Caustic, as the name itself and the World War 1 inspiration imply, likely uses a blister or vesicant agent which works on skin contact and can penetrate clothing, rubber and circumvent masks and is likely to * up electronics as well.