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- E9ine_AC5 years agoHero+@Cheese9Man All I know is my legends wraith has been nerfed every single season sometimes multiple times a season. So I do kinda like seeing others upset with needed nerfs. Us wraiths took a beating and its finally calmed down. I think some forget your legend was nerfed a total 3-5 times in the 2 years. Wraith has been nerfed more then every legend combined. Some just dont know what a nerf is until it really hits like it did us. haha
- @E9ine_AC I read that as, ''she probably did need a nerf or she may not have but here's some of the same salt that i had to endure. Good isn't it! Muhahaha''
Wraith had 3 or 4 nerfs and Lifeline had 5-6. Lifeline in Season 1 was considered the Legendary Legend. She was the heart of the game, every team had a Lifeline in the team who was in the middle of every fight. Lifeline is the most nerfed legend in the history of this game. Check facts.
- @xttrust 5 or 6? That's it? Caustic gets nerfed without even changing him.
- CCbathwater5 years agoSeasoned Ace
Her ult is s***. People who claim it's in a good spot can't be Lifeline mains. You wait half the game for nothing! While all Loba teams get what they need like... what? 50 seconds into the game. And to make it worse, had a teammate dc'ing the other day, but the game didn't kick him out for like 6-7 minutes, and I called 2 cp's during that time, and thanks to him just standing in Grow Towers with white armour we kept getting blue armour in the cp, which we already had.
Her ultimate is nothing compared to Loba, her reviving is worst than Gibraltar's. Hew passive is absolutely rubbish. The smallest legend in the game has now a normal HitBox.
Not to mention that she is the target of every player. You see a Lifeline, shot it first. That's it.
Can't run, can't push, can't save because they will thirst you. Well. as a Lifeline main with more than 17k kills, Heirloom, 10+ Legendary skins.I, yes I, decided to abandon her. I chose Horizon over her.
- jaygates8795 years agoSeasoned Ace
Confused about how old the thread is, but Wraith has gotten 11 nerfs to LL's 9 "counting when low profile & leg = body dmg was added for both". Granted, LL's gameplay changed more than Wraiths.
@CCbathwater wrote:Her ult is s***. People who claim it's in a good spot can't be Lifeline mains. You wait half the game for nothing! While all Loba teams get what they need like... what? 50 seconds into the game. And to make it worse, had a teammate dc'ing the other day, but the game didn't kick him out for like 6-7 minutes, and I called 2 cp's during that time, and thanks to him just standing in Grow Towers with white armour we kept getting blue armour in the cp, which we already had.
That is a good point. I never really thought of it that way. And you only get gold BP maybe 5% of the time. & half the time some rando will take it & not give it up which makes no sense. BUt also calling in a CP can be risky cuz it gives away your general position. I agree 1st CP should at least be all purple lvl items & gradually move up to gold items.
- CCbathwater5 years agoSeasoned Ace@Lord_Scorpion34 When I read it said "guaranteed upgrade" I thought that might be good, but what they really meant was "the lowest possible upgrade" every time. I still think her cp was nerfed as before you could go white to purple.
- Eshshshss5 years agoSeasoned Ace
Current issues I see with Lifeline:
- People play her like a mix of Octane and Loba = push and loot, which in 99% of the cases I have seen do not work out weel
- Adding multiple drones vs. a shield does not help the point 1 plus renders revive useless unless you get hit by a team without mobile legends using sniper weapons, then you can actually pick up your team, otherwise, most of the time you are just being pushed and decimated before players are resed
- Care package indeed shows everyone where you are and not always is worth it - going from white to blue while disclosing your position in Diamond+ lobbies is not worth it, plus I usually have no issues finding blue on my own
- It was said that the package will contain attachments to weapons - in many cases unfortunately those are useless as well (low/-er grade, not the ones people usually are looking for - stabilizer / extended mag)
The only game mode I still see fit for Lifeline is Arenas but who plays those :P
Sad to see her being rendered useless as I really liked her back in season 8.
Suggestions:
- give back the shield
- the care page might have a longer cooldown but it should contain top notch stuff from round 1 - e.g. purple/yellow armors, weapons, or at least attachments, one slot can be dedicated to meds but it then should be pheonix, battery, or medkit, would be cool if you could fit multiple of those similar to a current combo of cells and siringes
- increase knockdown res speed significantly unless the shield is back - and I am talking about close to doubling the speed so you can actually res people during the fight / before enemy pad or zipline on you (or at least give you a fighting chance to do that)
- RockDokRock5 years agoSeasoned Ace
@xttrust wrote:Wraith had 3 or 4 nerfs and Lifeline had 5-6. Lifeline in Season 1 was considered the Legendary Legend. She was the heart of the game, every team had a Lifeline in the team who was in the middle of every fight. Lifeline is the most nerfed legend in the history of this game. Check facts.
@xttrust "Facts". Laughs at you in Caustic.
- DR
- E9ine_AC5 years agoHero+
I have said it before I will do so again. My friend is the number 1 lifeline on pc in the world. This is a lifeline with over 45k matches played and over 115k kills. Most nerfs made he completely agreed with and said they did need a nerf. This is a die-hard day 1 lifeline all kills on his account are purely lifeline other than 1 legend where he has 500 kills on them. When you have a vet elder of the legend at hand even say things are broken or overpowered that should be considered IMO. The only major thing he ever complains about is the ultimate being useless after so many circles closes. This is not to say his input is correct in everyone's mind. His feedback for me though is very helpful to understand why he wants those changes or why he feels they should be made being a pro lifeline. Who does not have a huge following on twitch. He is just a guy who has a passion for the game and the love for his legend. So when he can admit that things are overpowered or need changed i look at things from his angle as to why he wishes for these changes.
This is also a lifeline who is overly aggressive and 9/10 times he wins those fights despite being a support legend. He easily sticks res on anyone down and protects them till they are up. He uses his aggressive game-play with his support game-play. Also want to state he had no influence on any changes made due to he is not well known but by the few pro players who do know him. So his voice while it does matter just is not heard. So I stand by his thought process on nerfs to this legend.
Just because he only played Lifeline he didn't had to say he is overpowered. Tell your friend to play other legends at least 10% how much he played Lifeline and he will definitely will understand how weack and useless her abilities have become now. This is me. A lifeline main with 15k+ match's only with Lifeline from season 0. Not playing as a PRO, just as a casual gamer after work. But still i can make a point if i see that they made a big mistake changing lifeline in season 4. Then they try to fix it but failed. So my fix for her will be.
Bring back lifeline from season 3. Thank you.
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