The devs say they will monitor it and see about bringing back her power in other ways later, but this is a huge nerf to this legend. Closer inspection of the changes show the hitbox has been extended way beyond the characters animation. At a rough guess the increase in volume is over a third imo.
This yt video shows how far outside the character hits will register, they kindly do a before and after.
Havn't played yet but imo its been overdone. Are the devs trying to again make me play other characters like pathfinder where I pull myself into walls or Gibraltar where I just insta die? Not going to happen. Guess I'll plod on and if unhappy with the results just go full on creeping in ranked as my lovely Wraith.
Good joke, thanks for the laugh. Anyway, she uses port, gets a speedbost, instant Q and even more speed when sliding. Even if you're using Q without port you can just hop around a corner and use Q or you can slide and Q to briefly negate the slowdown to the speed.
Also, comparing her passive to something like Gibby's gunshield or lifeline rez is so dumb as they have completely different purposes.
The devs say they will monitor it and see about bringing back her power in other ways later, but this is a huge nerf to this legend. Closer inspection of the changes show the hitbox has been extended way beyond the characters animation. At a rough guess the increase in volume is over a third imo.
This yt video shows how far outside the character hits will register, they kindly do a before and after.
Havn't played yet but imo its been overdone. Are the devs trying to again make me play other characters like pathfinder where I pull myself into walls or Gibraltar where I just insta die? Not going to happen. Guess I'll plod on and if unhappy with the results just go full on creeping in ranked as my lovely Wraith.
Him compare her old vs new hitbox shooting is just straight up garbage biased. On the old model he just shot 1 shot, and he miss. He still missed with 1 shot outside of her model, but he is connecting due to recoil by shooting multiple shots. I mean people will always complain, but at least be a bit of objective, this video was a joke.
Also Wraith tactical now is better than it was before. Some people are just bad and refuse to get better, refuse to learn how to use certain ability, and just refuse to improve. This is not a game or community problem, but their problem.
Be a bit of objective at the end. You still are untouched by so many ultimate, like Bangalore and Gibraltar, and now Fuse for example, as well as Horizon, you can easily get out Caustic ult as well. You pretty much can escape every sh**** situation you are getting into, being over aggressively or push recklessly, but now her tactical need just a lit a bit of skill and brain to be used. Also you are pretty much untouched by nades, and can escape a certain dead being stuck by arc star, cause you just Q and not get the damage.
This is top 3 passive, so someone complaining about it, it just ridiculous and just show people level on here, as well as their bias, and zero objectivism, which just prove how wrong is to balance a game towards a casual player feedback.
While i don`t think that nerf was very much deserved, she is still perfectly fine. They need to remove the extra damage to the limbs tho. It should not be a factor for any LP legend.
Also Horizon needs to be a LP legend. Her nerf was pretty much nothing, and she is still super strong.
I got no problem with her being strong, but she is pretty much taking any high ground on free, and this gives her team huge advantage, esp playing pre-made, which made solo queue even worst.
They also should have made her tactical going up straight, no strafing while going up, and make her easier to hit. Right now its just super hard. Top pro players have hard time hitting her, while she is in the air, while she got no recoil penalty when she is at top and can beam you easy, which is ridiculous. And sorry but i don`t sign to play Hyper Scape and aim vertically 90% of the fights against Horizon, this just ain`t fun. I wouldn`t have problem if they were using same hipfire sense for ADS as well.
@Deliberus You're complaining about Wraith's abilities when she's made for that. She's a movement character, what do you expect her to do?
Do you think the game will be better if they nerf her more? Don't you see that if Wraith becomes a trash character the game will be a camping simulator because she's the only character that allows fast rotations and a fast push?
And before you say anything i'm ok with this nerf, we'll see how it goes, although seeing this first day i think that her low low profile (taking body damage on arms and legs) should be removed.
If you think she's that easy to use, try her and come back here later.
Oh btw, Octane can get faster if she slides while using his q, he should be nerfed 😮.
@OldTreeCreeperI don't see much difference myself. She still has two get out of jail free cards. You wont die more because of this and her pick and win rate will stay the same. Why? A few reasons-
Wraith mains will not want to play any other character. They typically are the sweatiest of the sweats. She still can phase away. Good players can still get away easily. She can move her entire team without any of them taking damage.
The last one is the biggest thing for competitive. It is also why gibby is popular. Rezoning team characters are so valuable. If they want her to be picked less they need to make a legend that is similar.
@hayhor I can tell you that a couple of teams are already thinking of new combos without Wraith. Not saying they will not use her anymore, but they also never talked about removing her from the meta. I still think she'll be there, prob not on every team but the majority of them (and that's a good thing if you ask me).
@Cro_Pittt That is likely because last ALGS Rogue and Dropped got second without wraith on the team. They dominated qualifiers. They ran Horizon instead. Horizon gave them the ability to play low ground but gain height at the perfect time. Plus the guy running horizon said because the tactical doesnt make sound you can sneak up on people on height. Which is what I have been complaining about for awhile. Horizon is the only character in the game who's tactical is pretty much silent, especially from behind.
I think it is pretty awesome there are many legends getting usage now.
@KelRiever Revanent had a brief run in competitive before they nerfed using wraiths ult with his. One team in the finals actually used rampart for 2 or 3 matches. They did ok but then switched away. And crypto was used by multiple teams. A high quality crypto can make a huge difference.
