We have just posted an update on our current design direction for Battlefield 2042 Maps. Read the full update, here.
\nIn this update on map design we've outlined several questions for you on where we'd appreciate hearing your feedback. We first encourage you to read the original post in full so you have the proper context. We've also listed all of the questions posed in our blog today, in this thread, with the intent for you to take what's posted there as a thought starter for us to have an open discussion on this first topic around our existing maps.
\n\nPlease do feel free to jump in with your thoughts and feedback.
\n\nQUESTIONS FROM THE CORE FEEDBACK POST
\n\nWe invite you to share your thoughts, feelings and responses with us not just on these topics, but anything else you feel is related as well. We’ll of course also be reading your comments across multiple hubs of community such as Discord, Reddit, and Social Media. If you have posted your thoughts on another platform, don't be shy to link to them here so that we've seen them.
Please represent your thoughts and feelings based on your experience, preferences, and expectations for our future Updates. We ask you to be respectful of those who are taking the time to share their feedback, and to be mindful of our Forum Rules. Our moderation team will be active throughout the thread to help keep the conversation focused on our topic, and those seeking to be disruptive to that goal will be appropriately sanctioned.
\n\nOur thanks to all of you for your participation.
\n\nStraatford // @Straatford87
\nBattlefield Community Manager
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\nIn this update on map design we've outlined several questions for you on where we'd appreciate hearing your feedback. We first encourage you to read the original post in full so you have the proper context. We've also listed all of the questions posed in our blog today, in this thread, with the intent for you to take what's posted there as a thought starter for us to have an open discussion on this first topic around our existing maps.
\n\nPlease do feel free to jump in with your thoughts and feedback.
\n\nQUESTIONS FROM THE CORE FEEDBACK POST
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\n\nOur thanks to all of you for your participation.
\n\nStraatford // @Straatford87
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presently provide a poor opening experience because of the location of the Base Spawn? : This one for me is renewal, on 128p BT, both main bases on the initial spawn are directly next to each other and 9/10 end up with the defenders getting camped and unable to leave main spawn, moving the defenders initial main base to behind the mid gate in the wall would be a better compromise IMO.
How do you feel about the current balance between Infantry and Vehicles in Breakthrough? Balance is pretty poor on both sides, too many attacking vehicles (Boltes are still OP) if defenders had access to stationary weapons, i think this would help counter the numbers.
Have you played 64 player Breakthrough, and do you feel that this is the better way to experience the mode? Yes i've played, it's a much smoother experience but not to the intensity i would prefer, like 128p.
On which maps and Flags do you see the most immediate need for more line of sight blockers? Orbital for sure, the run from B Objectives to C is largely open with little cover.
Do you have specific areas on maps that currently stand out to you as lacking cover? As above.
Do you have thoughts on how we can better define traveling paths between objectives to keep combat focused? More use of Underground passageways/tunnels would make concentrated engagement areas.
Do you see improvement opportunities to make it easier to understand how to get from one objective to the next? would having more transport vehicles be an option (unarmed ones like humvees/quads etc) be an answer to this, having that ability to have smaller/unarmed transports spawn on captured points to help move between objectives would help massively.
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I've just read Dice's answer to the community's feedback and it seems like they've acknoledged a lot of our current complaints and I'm very much looking forward to seeing what you guys deliver with the next content update. I still do feel like some points have been left out.
In my opinion 2042 definetly does lack atmosphere. You guys over at Dice have created a great lore and a perfect setting for a modern shooter but to me it just seems like this whole story-line has been integrated in the game very poorly.
I think I'm speaking for the whole community if I say we want more grittyness and immersion. Bf1 is a prime example.
Maps need to be darker, Buildings have to be destructed, massive fires in the backround. All that sort of stuff you would expect in a global crisis.
The maps need to feel alive and dead at the same time. Make it look like people actuall lived there, like this once used to be home to families and now it's just chaos and fear.
We need urban maps, city maps and just in general a more infantry friendly setting. Right now at this point infantry is being devastated by vehicles and I think map design also plays a big part in this.
In conclusion: Everything 2042 needs is gritty, dark maps in a setting which is enjoyable to infantry and vehicles. Return to the classic Battlefield Atmosphere and set a tone that fits this lore.
Nontheless Battlefield is still about having fun so some elements like the platform from Damavand Peak or Levolution Events and little easter eggs would be great to see.
I hope this can help and I appreciate any effort put into fixing this game!
Looking forward to the next updates!
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EDIT:
Reading how many replies in the Map Suggestion thread have been made in such a short time made me wonder how hard will it be for the appropriate folks from DICE to actually extract all the top rated suggestions that have been mentioned there and get an idea of what the majority really wants.
So I thought a good idea would be that DICE makes a poll system where the community have the ability to choose from multiple answers that DICE things are possible to implement. I am not talking about one poll, but multiple polls about everything DICE feels that has to be changed. If such system is not available here in EA Answers EQ than just make a thread which links to a 3rd party poll hosting websites like StrawPoll.
Gives a very good look at what the majority wants.
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makes game very funny. PLZ listen to my advice.
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Thanks for reading, I'm really looking forward what yall have in store, I really like 2042 and want to see it grow 😁❤
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At the same time, I don't believe that 128 players is an all out bad mode, but I do believe it needs to be broken down more, into a way that focuses more on squad-centric conflicts and encourages those in a way that Drop Zone currently tries to encourage, but makes a bit too difficult to solo-q for. Having a mode, for instance, where a \"commander\" (could simply be a list like A-1, b-2, c-3 etc) organizes squads and setting certain specific objectives on a larger map for those squads and measuring their success on that, I believe would make better use of squads and operators, as it would focus players into picking operators for their objective, limit spawn points, while maintaining a large battlefield with signature moments when certain squads would succeed in an attack, objective or defence that the series is known for.
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\n\nThanks again for providing your feedback around Map Design.
\n\nIt's been a week since we posted this feedback request to you. That means we'll now close this thread so we can start compiling all your thoughts and comments. Again, we really appreciate that you've taken the time to have this discussion with us.
\n\nOnce we're done reading through everything, we'll follow-up with what we've learned and next steps.
\n\nThank you,
\n\n//Straatford / @Straatford87
\nBattlefield Community Manager
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