Think the majority of players loved the dogtags in previous games and we want them back in BF2042. Personally I liked the best the BF3 version, alternatively the BF4 version of it.But what about counter knifing?Do we also want that back then?I thought it was a really fun concept and worked pretty well. But the frequent problem was that the wide counter-knifing area around an enemy soldier was too big so you would often end up trying to knife someone, only for them turn around at the last split second and counter you. And often ambiguous on how the heck that could happen???Like the melee action was fine in BF3. Also that trying to knife from the front could result in a counter. While knifing from other directions should always result in animation and you getting the tags. So EA, please don't make any easy mode melee bs...I am OK to see the counter knifing in the BF2042 game when front to front. But don't make it too soft or easy. The ones clever enough to sneak up on enemies from the back to take them out with their blade obviously deserve the tags!How do you feel about counter-knifing?Do you think they should have it in BF2042?

@Midget3k Only a front knife should counterable.

@CyberDyme I would be happy with a counter knife system that wasn't as inconsistent as BF4's.

Dog tag and knife kill count 100%.A website which tags your knife kills (again!) would be amazing too.As for counter knifing - i've never been sold. Yes straight up no real issues here, but side or behind countering definite no from me.I love a sneaky knife kill and to then be rewarded with being countered and killed - very saddening!

I have no problems with counter knife, but it's probably because I can not remember having trying to knife anyone or even being able to find the knife. 🤣🤣🤪🤪 Multitasking is hard for us oldies. 😩🤔

I disagree and I don't want this feature back at all.I am one of these player who often outmanouver, flank a group of soldiers and sneak up on them just to kill them seperate one by one and I shouldn't be punished for doing so because I alreay doing a "high" risk manouver to attack them. So everything from the back or right and left handside I disagree fully butfrom the front side, I think you should be able to counter.

Dog Tags, YES please! But how about counter knifing?

21 Replies

CloudMcRip
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
I disagree and I don't want this feature back at all.
I am one of these player who often outmanouver, flank a group of soldiers and sneak up on them just to kill them seperate one by one and I shouldn't be punished for doing so because I alreay doing a "high" risk manouver to attack them. So everything from the back or right and left handside I disagree fully but
from the front side, I think you should be able to counter.
infantrypeasant
5 years ago
@CyberDyme I feel knifing gets way too much attention in the game and the fact if you get close enough the game basically does the whole knifing for you, really takes the whole fun away for me.

I much more prefer the system from '42 where you have to actively stab someone a couple of times before they die.
Trokey66
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
@CyberDyme I would be happy with a counter knife system that wasn't as inconsistent as BF4's.
carsono311
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
@Trokey66 Yep. That is the only reason I am against it. If the counter was more consistent, I would be fine with it as well.
Midget3k
5 years ago
Dog tag and knife kill count 100%.
A website which tags your knife kills (again!) would be amazing too.
As for counter knifing - i've never been sold. Yes straight up no real issues here, but side or behind countering definite no from me.
I love a sneaky knife kill and to then be rewarded with being countered and killed - very saddening!
carsono311
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
@Midget3k BFStats used to track that info when EA DICE permitted third party APIs. I would love to see it supported again as well.
Midget3k
5 years ago
@carsono311 completed agree. Loved BFStats (+the forum signatures you could create as a result!!)
Trokey66
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
@Midget3k Only a front knife should counterable.
Fringerunner
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
@Trokey66I honestly thought while counter knifing was a fun gimmick, it was something comically implemented (as you say, it should be front only), and i'm honestly not sure it really added much.
Yea, a counter was fun to watch (and when you pulled it off obviously), but it wasn't *that* unreliable either, and i remember a couple of dry/dry episodes where going for the knife was the "only" option where it felt almost inevitable you were going to die because you went for the knife on instinct and then went "oh, he's just going to counter, i should have reloaded" as the nature of it almost made it feel like the person who initiated was disadvantaged. Can't counter a counter after all.
(Or could you? Getting hazy memories of just mashing the knife keybind hoping you "won", i honestly don't remember if that was superstition or if it actually mattered)

I get that making it "however QTE'd right the most times" would probably lead to someone standing in the middle of the map, unkillable and locked in a back and forth for 5 minutes, but i also think the concept itself was somewhat unfair. It used to be if you got your point blank attack off first, you "won". After counter-knifing, it felt like it wasn't worth the risk to initiate quite often, my opinion at least.

Maybe show a flipping coin during the struggle animation and finish it based on a randomizer both players can see (ie; the "coin" landing etc) and genuinely make it totally random if conditions for a counter-knife were met like both players hitting their attack button inside .5 of a second or something.
Would make the counter-deaths easier to eat at least.
SirBobdk
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
I have no problems with counter knife, but it's probably because I can not remember having trying to knife anyone or even being able to find the knife. 🤣🤣🤪🤪 Multitasking is hard for us oldies. 😩🤔