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killlluaaa's avatar
3 years ago

PLease add a functionality for no-streamer games

Hello,

Streamers are a source of many troubles for regular players, which they rarely think about.

1) they increase account security problems by displaying your account name, and some of the account content you possess (especially rare and expensive findings), with often recorded videos of it on internet, even to people who don't even play the game and didn't buy it

2) they can be a source of a massive harassment if they drive the focus of the masses following them on you

3) they can be a source of humiliation for your account if they beat you in a poor manner with thousands of viewers

4) they can disturb how the game plays by having a whole clique follow them and even make you lose your match by doing weird things they think is fun with many people accompanying them

5) they can reveal to your whole server your gameplay strategy while you were just fighting one opponent (the streamer)

6) they centralize most the attention on them when they play, even if something else deserves some of it too

7) they don't ask you if you agree for what they are doing. all you can do is leave the game. But :

8) they also never announce themselves ingame, except sometimes with a TTV affix you have to notice by yourself during the game

What i'm saying here applies to all online games.

What i would suggest is :

- Make streamers declare they are such somewhere for the devs to know it (even little streamers)

- Add an option to regular players to be able to play games without streamers (checkbox in the options etc)

- add an option ingame to randomize your player/account name if you think it is still unsafe.

Playing with 3 regular opponents on the screen is different than having thousands of players watching you cause someone is filming it.

I don't mind if people like them to be able to play with them too. I just want to be able to say "no i don't want that in my game" somewhere in the options

Thank you for your attention.

37 Replies

  • killlluaaa's avatar
    killlluaaa
    3 years ago

    I said streamers to "mark" themselves as you say for the devs to know to have the feature work. I didn't say to enforce people on that. It's just a click. I would expect most streamers to click it by themselves.

    Players don't need to know that much, so i'm not 100% sure, for people who already broadcast themselves and others on internet on purpose, where the problem would be to click an option internal to the devs data to say they do

    I'm pretty sure streaming is already a much bigger "mark" by itself. If you can't stand a boolean in an encryped database, tell me why do you stream ? As for the other question, was that a real question ?

  • RMEChief's avatar
    RMEChief
    Legend
    3 years ago

    Serious questions for OP.

    Does playing the game authorize your character to be recorded?

    Do you have to give consent?

    Recording conversations without consent is illegal in many states; so do streamers have permission to post your voice chat?

  • Well i am not much of a jurist, i was just looking for something coming out of a bit of people's goodwill considering the points i gave.

    Now your questions seem important, but i can't answer them myself. I know very little of this, especially international right. I could try say something but i'm not confident enough in this, far from it.

    So i prefer saying nothing than saying something wrong.

    All i can say is GDPR applies where i live, i heard a bit about it. I dont remember if the game asked me anything, was some years ago.

  • Alethes's avatar
    Alethes
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago

    @killlluaaa wrote:

    Well i am not much of a jurist, i was just looking for something coming out of a bit of people's goodwill considering the points i gave.

    Now your questions seem important, but i can't answer them myself. I know very little of this, especially international right. I could try say something but i'm not confident enough in this, far from it.

    So i prefer saying nothing than saying something wrong.

    All i can say is GDPR applies where i live, i heard a bit about it. I dont remember if the game asked me anything, was some years ago.


    I see your point. What I don't understand is — respectfully — what is the difference between 127 players 'watching how you play' vs. say, 10000 people watching it...?

    If this is the case: we've all played matches where we've been embarrassed by top players. No offense, but just ignore what someone may or may not think of you...

    If the problem is messaging, yes, I got messages from random players after a match and they were all innocuous. Many funny; some calling me a "rat" (going down 0-5 is not taken lightly by some...?); others complaining "why did you not revive me?" (I did not notice is the answer). Chill and all be well.

  • Well in my view, in a given match there are not really 127 players watching me, but a fraction of it.

    I may often only encounter 30-50 players in a given match, and not all of them at once. Maybe i'll just have one opponent on screen or vicinity most of the time. Where 10k viewers with a good view/sound on me for for some time would be much more people.

    Also real players are busy playing their game for the most part, where viewers are more subject to looking around the screen and noticing details. So, many more people may watch me from it, and they are also more available than regular players to do so.

    Like i remember in another BF game some years ago, my char once was downed for 10 minutes instead of a few seconds. I never asked for it. I never cheat or anything, maybe there is my very bad K/D somewhere you can see. Say the bug is so that any medic could res me.If i'm unlucky on the visual setup people might think i cheat.

    One busy player seing me being ressed after being downed for 2 minutes may ignore it, or perform one report cause he feels grumpy. Now put a big streamer instead watching that. You may end up with 1k reports and receive a heavy ban. In the same situation, that nearly happened to me some years ago.

    I could imagine so many sitations like this that it would be endless. Again, numbers matter. There is a reason why people often feel better in toilets than in a crowded train station as another example, people don't dare do the same things for a reason.

    Also, as to ignore what people think of you : i kind of do that too. But it depends on the situation. I already got harassed daily in another MMO for around one year and it didn't feel good. There is a limit to what people can ignore. You seem to imagine casual conversations, and yes BF has mostly casual ones, but things are not always this way. And things can reach outside of the game too is you are out of luck.

  • EA_Illium's avatar
    EA_Illium
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    3 years ago

    Hey Battlefield Fans,

    Thanks to everyone for taking a moment to share your opinion and feedback with the community!

    While we love seeing feedback, Implementing some of the ideas may be impossible for the team to accomplish. However, we are always happy to pass the feedback along.

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