The BSV is still to strongThe k30 still is the king close rangeThe MP9 close combat is still better than anything other than the K30The M5 close combat short barrel is only beaten in cqc by the k30 and mp9 close combatThe steatlh chopper is still brokenèThe only change that worked is the hind 50 mm cannon nerf

@InS_Hypno Why wouldn't the K30 be good at close range? It is a SMG.

@InS_HypnoI can agree that the BSV is still powerful.The MP9 is meant to be good at close rangeThe K30 is meant to be good at close rangeThe M5 with all the close quarter configuration is meant to be good at close range.Yes the stealth chopper is still broken because the TGS is bad.

I think what you meant was, it's still king at close range and still too dang deadly at medium to long range. It's still outguns most things around 50 to 100 m

@GovntTookMyBaby The K30 was nerfed by reducing bullet damage, they did it to the MP9 as well. The K30 had a drop off at close range, so I totally disagree with the OP on this point. With the new console aim assist, it may be performing similarly but as a PC guy who lost the ability to aim consistently, the damage drop off was too effective. It should own at short range, but suck at mid to long ranges. The cc rounds for the M5 is still terrific, and should be.I agree with the OP about the stealth heli. It is 100% still wrong. Watched a guy on Manifest out over the water just tear up C and D, out of range of Rao. Any AA came out, he just moved to stealth. Until they allow a manual lock with a Soflam, the long range farming will continue. So far I’ve found the BSV average. Again, that could be my new found loss of aiming. Between desync and whatever the hell they did with 1.2 I can barely hit the side of a barn.

@CantGetRight wrote:@InS_HypnoWhy wouldn't the K30 be good at close range? It is a SMG.Doesn't mean it shouldn't be good at close range but it shouldn't outright beat everything like it does right now

The nerf in the update were for the most part ineffective

13 Replies

CantGetRight
4 years ago
@InS_Hypno Why wouldn't the K30 be good at close range? It is a SMG.
TheBassProShop
Seasoned Veteran
4 years ago
@CantGetRight wrote:
@InS_HypnoWhy wouldn't the K30 be good at close range? It is a SMG.
Doesn't mean it shouldn't be good at close range but it shouldn't outright beat everything like it does right now
Echo6Echo
4 years ago
I think what you meant was, it's still king at close range and still too dang deadly at medium to long range. It's still outguns most things around 50 to 100 m
Flommingsen
Seasoned Veteran
4 years ago
Yeah the BSV is still way too strong.
It still has to little recoil and to high damage for longer ranges IMO.
GovntTookMyBaby
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
wait....you're saying the M5A3 CC rounds/short barrel is too good in....CC? K30 and MP9 SHOULD be good CC.....bruh....thats how it SHOULD be, there are too many things broken in this game, lets not gripe about the things that work right lol.
ATFGunr
Legend
4 years ago
@GovntTookMyBaby The K30 was nerfed by reducing bullet damage, they did it to the MP9 as well. The K30 had a drop off at close range, so I totally disagree with the OP on this point. With the new console aim assist, it may be performing similarly but as a PC guy who lost the ability to aim consistently, the damage drop off was too effective. It should own at short range, but suck at mid to long ranges. The cc rounds for the M5 is still terrific, and should be.I agree with the OP about the stealth heli. It is 100% still wrong. Watched a guy on Manifest out over the water just tear up C and D, out of range of Rao. Any AA came out, he just moved to stealth. Until they allow a manual lock with a Soflam, the long range farming will continue. So far I’ve found the BSV average. Again, that could be my new found loss of aiming. Between desync and whatever the hell they did with 1.2 I can barely hit the side of a barn.
TheBassProShop
Seasoned Veteran
4 years ago
@GovntTookMyBaby wrote:
wait....you're saying the M5A3 CC rounds/short barrel is too good in....CC? K30 and MP9 SHOULD be good CC.....bruh....thats how it SHOULD be, there are too many things broken in this game, lets not gripe about the things that work right lol.
They are OP anyone with a brain can attest to that, it's why 80% of the playerbase are using those guns
They are stupid easy to use while being stupid good
IRoss2
4 years ago
I am sorry but I don't agree with you. M5A3 CC rounds are garbage right now. You are saying that K30, MP9, and M5A3 CC are op up close. Yes they need to be effective up close that is the purpose of these guns. In my opinion dice needs to nerf k30, mp9 range from 30 meters - 100 meters. Second SCAR right now is dominating on all distances right now. Scar in my opinion is the most op assault rifle at range and even up close it is way too effective for its role. M5A3 standard ammo with standard barrel or AK -24 from 10 meters cannot out dps Scar which in my opinion is bunch of horse crap.
fragnstein
4 years ago
There will always be something that out performs everything else. Soon there will be just 4 guns to choose from: smg, lmg, sniper and assault riffle and crossbow
UP_Hawxxeye
Legend
4 years ago
@InS_Hypno
I can agree that the BSV is still powerful.
The MP9 is meant to be good at close range
The K30 is meant to be good at close range
The M5 with all the close quarter configuration is meant to be good at close range.
Yes the stealth chopper is still broken because the TGS is bad.