Update 3.2 Feedback - Weapons

- Portal weapons can't compete with the AOW weapons

- Portal Weapons need attachments and skins but mostly attachments we can unlock. 

- All I see now is Scar with the drum again which feel like Mini quick kill LMGs but I get it. People were upset

- Barrel attachments still feel like they don't do what they should do or if they are doing it, its not that noticeable. 

• i am pleasantly suprised how fast the nonsensical drum and extended mag nerf was reverted....
• LMGs still are essentially 200+ round ARs
• gunplay might need a bit of an overhaul since atm its just way to easy to beam people beyond 50m and i mean absolutely BEAM in less then half a second with full auto ARs or LMGs (even if not bipoded or used with the proficency) no downsides whatsoever yet i am unsure of how this might get implemented since maps are still very much open shooting galleries especially inbetween flags......
• Portal weapons are getting better but lack attatchemnts as has been mentioned ad infinitum
• High Power ammo might need a rework since its very very good especially on the SFAR... maybe increase the horizontal recoil slightly....

@Straatford87 

What I like.

• New weapons and weapons being brought over from Portal, more of each please.

What I dislike.

• Most weapons feel too easy to use, there is no need to burst/tap fire because if you can control recoil, you can just mash the trigger and still be fairly accurate out past even 100+ meters.
• In the name of "balancing" weapons, unfortunately they all begin to have a similar "feel" to them, with the exception of a few "meta" setups. I believe part of that is due to the weapon "plus" system allowing nearly every AOW weapon to be a jack-of-all-trades. weapon. I went into a more detailed explanation of this in the post below.

For all those "lack of weapons" complaints... - Answer HQ

What I would like to see changed.

• Add some sort of penalty when using full-auto weapons, add spread or incrementally stronger recoil when "spraying and praying."
• Somehow make each weapon more "unique" with positives and negatives.
• More "futuristic" style weapons like some stuff from BF2142, maybe?
• Possibly look at reevaluating the weapon plus system.

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@Ironhead841 w

What I would like to see changed.

• More "futuristic" style weapons like some stuff from BF2142, maybe?

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i want a phased plasma rifle in a 40 watt range

@Psubond 

"Hey, just what ya see. pal"

Great movie. 🙂

Can we have a have a button that lets us take out our melee weapon easier? or maybe revert the change when holding down melee attack button. As of now, you cant switch to melee without the forced attack animation and it also slows you down if sprinting.

What I like:

I enjoy that pretty much all of the 2042 (not vault) weapons feel very unique, and some have their own unique attachments.

I'm glad that vault weapons are in the game, keep 'em coming!

What I dislike / What I'd like to see changed:

Like many, I really wish the vault weapons had a wider selection of attachments, and at least mastery skins to unlock and the option to equip charms.

I wish the vault weapons (mainly the assualt rifles) felt more unique with their stats and handling, like how the 2042 weapons do.

I wish more of the attachments had more reasons to use them because as of now, there are certain combinations that seem very strong on pretty much every weapon (extended mags, holo sights, LWG grip).

I'd also just like more attachments for all guns and I'm glad some have been added like the thermal optics, so it would be nice to get more mags, barrels, and underbarrels.

This might be nitpicky, but I think certain Tier 1 mastery skins for weapons aren't nearly as good as others due to not being able to see much color, mainly the PKP-BP and NTW-50.

This is also a bit nitpicky, but I think the current LMG standard running animation looks a bit wonky the way the gun just kind of bounces (except for the XM8), and I much prefer how it was before where the gun would sway side to side.

What I Like:

New Scopes added each season

Variety of attachments

What I dislike

SFAR Headshot multiplier is too much, while understandable buff, it made the sfar win too many engagements, like the SMGs pre headshot nerf

Avancys still overpowered, way too effective, especially with lmg proficiency

Shotguns other than 12m auto feel too weak to use

XO Smart optic is too Dark and hard to see enemies in scope

Changes

More prominent:

change SFAR headshot multiplier, there is no reason it should do 60 damage max on a headshot invalidating gunfights.

avancys needs a nerf in dps and accuracy

shotguns need a change in damage models to better align like in past games, most similar to BFV shotgun mechanics if possible balance wise

Tweak G57 to be in line with other sidearms

Buff Vault weapons' bullet velocity

Buff Vault Weapon Sidearms like M1911 and 93R

lighten XO Smart Optic filter

T3 & T2 should give new mastery skins as the grind to T1 is too long without much reward.

Less Prominent:

Add standard extended magazine for VCAR, similar reload and capacity to the Close Combat ammo

Buff PF51 damage OR Recoil

Revert last MP9 nerf, it didn't justify that change after change in HS multiplier

Rattlesnake light grip needs a buff as it is inferior than laser attachments

T4 Thermal needs whole scope space to be thermal

Raven 4x needs a better reticle

show which optics give glint in attachment description

The fact you changed all the input controls absolutely sucks. A stinger missile still won’t bring down an aircraft with one hit, which is absolute garbage, just ask the commie * that invaded Afghanistan. The damn aircraft just deploy flares, evade missiles, fly out of range and come back fully charged. Same garbage if you actually manage to land a damn hit, they just flat out of range, stupid piece of crap launchers won’t lock, even when in range, so bringing down aircraft with launchers is useless. Same goes for Armor. I blew up a god dam  enemy tank in Desert Storm with 1, count it, ONE AT-4. Not f****+g 4 of the god damn things. Your game balance sucks, your classes suck, your changing my input controls around absolutely blows donkeys and I’ve hand it with this piece of crap game. Everything you have done since launch has been nothing but a royal clusterfuck and 3.2 had only made it that much worse. Sick of being farmed by goddamn aircraft and ground vehicles. Take a look at what is going on in Ukraine. One javelin destroys a tank. It doesn’t take 3. One stinger downs an aircraft, it doesn’t take 4+. FFS, the balance here is absolute * and I’m frustrated beyond belief with your garbage * game. Make something on par with BF 1 and maybe I’ll consider actually purchasing it and referring people to do the same. Until then shove all your crap aa, at, and guided missiles straight up your garbage games *. Nothing has worked in this piece of * release since day 1 and 3.2 didn’t fix *, it only made trying to play worse.