So often there are posts saying "this shouldn't work this way" or "this is over powered compared to real life".Perhaps a quick reminder..... this is a GAME. It's not a Military Simulator. A Game.And the goal of a game is to provide enjoyment. Every time some folks ask for something to be changed, when the devs change it, it just results in other folks being unhappy.Again. GAME.Also, to the folks who complain about being killed by a single bullet.... well, I don't know about you, and I've never been shot, but I assume that being shot is not enjoyable. In fact, instead of being able to absorb multiple shots, just a single bullet entering my body would probably have me on the ground, crying my boy eyes out. So even a single shot would probably incapacitate me.Once more... it's a game.Play to enjoy. If you don't enjoy, there are a few other games available for consoles, or PCs, I've heard.

@Its_Travis_199I truly believe the trend of listening to influencer's is where most to the real problems stem. They play a different way than most of the players play.

@OSpazX I know where you coming from and i think the same way. But complaining about certain things in games (especially in BF2042) i can understand as they are broken AF aka just really OP compared to how it should be. Not talking about being realistic or game wise. The first problem that comes into play imo, is that the team is listening to the wrong people (just the players that post complaints). And if there is multiple ones they most likely follow that line. But the issue is you mostly won't see a post of people which are fine with those things cause those people won't be here posting like "oh this is nice, that is cool" because they will be out there playing the game. Second issue imo, if you see many complaints about a thing, the team should then think about asking some of their well known BF veterans who played many hours in many of their titles (like myself) about those topics then to get a clear view if those people complaining are just upset because they are unlucky in game situations or if there is really something to this problem topic. So a veteran/expert view or opinion could maybe lead it the right way of balancing. Instead of just blindly following many "random" complaints and then end up with complaints from the other side (like something being too weak or useless). Third issue imo, the team seem to not test changes before sending them live. And then things are sometimes more broken than before but in a different way. Greets, Travis

@sk1lld I know what you mean, maybe they kinda do or maybe not. Don't know. Maybe it's a mix of both. But what i mean by BF veterans, i don't mean the influencer like YT or streamer. I'm not any of those things, but i can tell you i probably have more hours of playtime in certain BF games than some of them. Just cause you make videos of a game or sometimes stream it doesn't say your overall playtime is that much. What also comes into play is, some streamer or YT just play a certain thing like only Chopper, only Jet or only Infantry and being really good in what they do. But also therefore the complaints can be coming only from one side cause you don't know the other. Of course a only Chopper or Jet player might complain about ground gadgets ect. being OP or too much cause they only spend time in the air. (meanwhile posting videos going 120 - 0 every match) Others playing mostly Infantry complain about Choppers being OP and write in the ingame chat how annoyed they are, but nobody thinks about coming back as engineer and actually start doing something against it as a team to get rid if him. Greets, Travis

@sk1lld They're listening to the wrong people. I've stopped watching Ghostgaming on youtube cos he's whinging about everything. SquidG only for me now.

@ElliotLHThat is the correct attitude. I actually think that things like Surveys should be "advertised" in game (the bottom right section when at the Home screen) that will open a browser on the console (ok, I guess P.C. players should be also included in surveys).Actually... instead of a browser on the console, where typing is a chore, maybe have it pop up a QR that the users' phones can use to open browser on the phone.Anywhos, back to my original response:I created a Twitter account back in the olden days, just to see what it was about. I logged in with it maybe 4 times.Twitter, depressingly, has been ruined by two people.1. Trump2. MuskI plan to never log in again (and I was such a power user lol)I also created a Facebook account (and prior to that a MySpace account) many moons ago. The only purpose was so I could monitor my teenage kids' accounts.Facebook was ruined by two people:1. Trump2. Zuck.I plan to never log in again.P.S. I am a little active on this forum at the moment, as my parents are visiting from Australia (I'm in the US) and will be here for the next 2 months. I basically get zero xbox time. So I'm living my BF2042 fun by reading and responding lolP.P.S I am a coder myself. Not in gaming, but internally for a rather large international company. So... NERD.P.P.P.S. It would be interesting to see that age ranges of folks who play BF. I'm bound to be in one of the last groupings... 50+ y.o.P.P.P.P.S My kids are now in their 30s.

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Its_Travis_199
Hero+
2 years ago
@OSpazX

I know where you coming from and i think the same way.

But complaining about certain things in games (especially in BF2042) i can understand as they are broken AF aka just really OP compared to how it should be.

Not talking about being realistic or game wise.

The first problem that comes into play imo, is that the team is listening to the wrong people (just the players that post complaints). And if there is multiple ones they most likely follow that line.

But the issue is you mostly won't see a post of people which are fine with those things cause those people won't be here posting like "oh this is nice, that is cool" because they will be out there playing the game.

Second issue imo, if you see many complaints about a thing, the team should then think about asking some of their well known BF veterans who played many hours in many of their titles (like myself) about those topics then to get a clear view if those people complaining are just upset because they are unlucky in game situations or if there is really something to this problem topic.

So a veteran/expert view or opinion could maybe lead it the right way of balancing.

Instead of just blindly following many "random" complaints and then end up with complaints from the other side (like something being too weak or useless).

Third issue imo, the team seem to not test changes before sending them live. And then things are sometimes more broken than before but in a different way.

Greets, Travis
turtlebeached
2 years ago
@OSpazX hehehee. yeah i know.lol
turtlebeached
2 years ago
@Its_Travis_199 I agree, ask the Old blokes. they know what needs to be done. Kids know nuffink these days. LOL
Its_Travis_199
Hero+
2 years ago
@turtlebeached

Like for example, why did the LATV4 jeep have such big guns like a 30mm or 50mm cannon at the first place?

It's just a jeep aka transport vehicle on a big battlefield with Tanks and stuff.

So leave it with just a minigun like it was in other battlefield games, and maybe like a heavy machine gun too.

But no, instead the remove the 30mm cause of OP complaints but instead it gets an AA flak. 🥴🙃 Just so they now had to temporary disable that AA flak again cause of balancing things, so what's the point of all that anyway?! Lol

Greets, Travis
sk1lld
Legend
2 years ago
@Its_Travis_199

I truly believe the trend of listening to influencer's is where most to the real problems stem. They play a different way than most of the players play.
Its_Travis_199
Hero+
2 years ago
@sk1lld

I know what you mean, maybe they kinda do or maybe not. Don't know. Maybe it's a mix of both.

But what i mean by BF veterans, i don't mean the influencer like YT or streamer.

I'm not any of those things, but i can tell you i probably have more hours of playtime in certain BF games than some of them.

Just cause you make videos of a game or sometimes stream it doesn't say your overall playtime is that much.

What also comes into play is, some streamer or YT just play a certain thing like only Chopper, only Jet or only Infantry and being really good in what they do. But also therefore the complaints can be coming only from one side cause you don't know the other.

Of course a only Chopper or Jet player might complain about ground gadgets ect. being OP or too much cause they only spend time in the air. (meanwhile posting videos going 120 - 0 every match)

Others playing mostly Infantry complain about Choppers being OP and write in the ingame chat how annoyed they are, but nobody thinks about coming back as engineer and actually start doing something against it as a team to get rid if him.

Greets, Travis
Its_Travis_199
Hero+
2 years ago
Then we get 100 weird balancing updates that nobody is happy with. And sometimes be even more broken than before and they temporary disable things completely till its "fixed".

Greets, Travis
turtlebeached
2 years ago
@Its_Travis_199 AAhh, but, this is supposed to be set in the future. Guns will get bigger while tech gets smaller.
turtlebeached
2 years ago
@sk1lld They're listening to the wrong people. I've stopped watching Ghostgaming on youtube cos he's whinging about everything. SquidG only for me now.
turtlebeached
2 years ago
@Its_Travis_199 None of the Battlefields have been released in a finished condition. They've all been tweaked. It takes about a year and a half until they mature into something we can enjoy. It's almost ready.

I've just been muckin about with the rules editor and making new game modes. some twisted, some good.