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@Straatford87 thanks so much for responding, here and on Twitter via Lossy's post, we really appreciate it! I'm glad the team is looking into this and again as I noted on Twitter, we appreciate the work you guys are putting in towards this game!
- @Straatford87 Hey, man. Thanks for addressing this. Can you comment if the PC mouse input is also being looked at? It feels very off compared to other games and even previous BFs.
- @Straatford87the biggest issue is horizontal tracking. Or lack of horizontal tracking. Right now the slowing effect is to strong and the slow bubble so large that you input more to compensate and even if are able to over come the slow field you cant make effective aim adjustments. Many times you still cant get aim on target as it's always lagging behind. Then if the target changes direction your aim flys off wildly becuase all of a sudden are out of the slow bubble do to the increased stick pressure increase to fight the slowing effect.
The game needs horizontal tracking so less input is required so controller players can actually adjust aim.
The other main issue is snape aim. I have hundreds of hours on the series x playing 2042 and I have had snap aim only work one time with AR never with any other gun but iron sited smgs.and then less then a dozen times.
These to me are the biggest issues.
On another note have you guys even discussed input based match making?
- @Straatford87the biggest issue is horizontal tracking. Or lack of horizontal tracking. Right now the slowing effect is to strong and the slow bubble so large that you input more to compensate and even if are able to over come the slow field you cant make effective aim adjustments. Many times you still cant get aim on target as it's always lagging behind. Then if the target changes direction your aim flys off wildly becuase all of a sudden are out of the slow bubble do to the increased stick pressure increase to fight the slowing effect.
- Metal_Daryl973 years agoSeasoned Ace
For me (ps5), aim assist is mostly an issue when tracking moving players - the sticky aim assist becomes noticeably stronger (compared to its strength when shooting static targets) and makes it harder to lead shots
How is this still an issue 8 months after launch? Broken aim assist on a console game is bad enough, but making it crossplay with PC is inexcusable.
@Slink_FSU @Metal_Daryl97 @xXHappy_PuppyXx @megazz
Hopefully this lengthy delay in correcting the aim assist is actually a result of them overhauling it and getting it to where bf1 or bf5 was. It's really broken right now and as noted, the horizontal tracking and snap assist are two huge problems, as they're almost nonexistent right now.
I can only imagine that @Straatford87 and the team are working hard at this and hopefully they'll have time to us in the next update or so.
It's a core component for console players playing any FPS, especially involving crossplay with PC players, so I hope we get this adjustment soon!
- @RedriaDark
I think the delay is less about them "overhauling it" and more about them straight up not having the ability, budget, desire, or resources to fix it.
Aim assist is table stakes for controller FPSes, whether they're on console or PC. To release a game with broken aim assist and then to not have it fixed in the first big patch should be embarrassing to them, especially with the game having crossplay with M+KB users.
I think DICE is screwed with the new version of the Frostbite engine. They can't get it optimized and it's causing issues across the board.
At this point I'd be OK with them just enabling M+KB support for console players, but I'm sure that would just complicate things even further.
It's a frustrating time being a Battlefield player right now. - @Slink_FSU Well frostbite engine has been a issue for awhile now. Really came to lite with Bioware issues with. EA stated they were investing millions to streamline the Development software for it but have heard nothing since.
I think a lot of the console issues being totally ignored is do to devs that do play this only play on PC. It explains why input lag on mouse and keyboard have had repeated patches that almost all balance changes are from a PC perspective.
We reported the aim assit issue during the beta and repeatedly after release and all they did is increase the slowing effect in the bubble making it even worse. Showing a total disconnect from the games real issue.
If they want to recover the console population they need to do a lot more then tweak aim assit. Just adding on my latest with this:
As I said before, the Aim Assist did little to nothing when in typical engagements where the player was close to you and strafing or anything. No actual help there.
However, when tracking players, the AA seemed to kick in, but actually made it so it added MORE RESISTANCE as you tried to move the crosshair to follow them, meaning you never actually can never quite get the crosshair on them. For example, enemy is moving left to right, if you try to track left to right, your aim is SLOWER than normal even if you are behind themI've dropped my Aim Assist value from default (100) to 70 and that's where it finally started to feel like I could at least catch up, but in general it seems like aim assist is hurting more than helping. Heck I might even drop the value more. Almost as if it applies a speed modifier to your stick movement (slowing it down) rather than automatically pulling your aim towards the target as it moves.
So if anyone else is getting burned by Aim Assist, I suggest turning it off, or at least reducing the value a bunch.
@Slink_FSU that was something I wish we had the option to do to, using M+KB would have been great, but I agree I think it's too late for that.
As for the engine, we'll see how it turns out, but it's looking very shaky right now at best.
And I also agree that a lack of resources has a lot to do with the lack of aim assist as it makes little sense that it's so blatantly absent in this game, but perfectly fine in BF1 and BF5.
They do have a lot of work ahead of them in fixing this issue and helping the overall population (especially on console) come back to the game. I honestly think the game is great at its core and has massive potential, but the aim assist issue is an example of a huge problem the game has among others, but I'm hoping a total fix is coming soon.
@Dead-Sync @xXHappy_PuppyXx @Slink_FSU this was suggested in the reddit forums as well, to reduce or eliminate the aim assist in the settings.
Lowering it helped, but it wasn't all too noticeable, and when I tried removing it entirely, well, I was all over the place, hahaha.
I do think that this is a temporary option for those willing to try. Bottom line though is that aim assist has to be revamped in order for more effective gunplay in 2042 to be present.
Product: Battlefield 2042
Platform:Xbox Series X
Please specify your platform model. Microsoft Xbox Series X
Are you using any software with an overlay? No
Which part of the game is the issue happening in? Multiplayer
Which part of the mode? Breakthrough
Please select your region Australia
On which server did this happen?
When did this happen? (dd.mm.yy hh:mm)
Summarize your bug Hit reg feels unresponsive at times. aim assist feels like it has more aim resistance then it helps.
How often does the bug occur? Occasionally (10% - 49%)
Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? Play your game
What happens when the bug occurs? Your cant track enemies, and end up wasting too many bullets trying.
What should be happening instead? You aim tracks on target like it did the previous June update.
Agree, I think they tried to increase aim assist but we got more aim resistance instead.
I also think that hit reg issues have resurfaced to where it feels like you're needing more bullets to get kills sometimes.
The aim just feels weird in this game. If you are on target with your first shots it feels like you can track and down people with ease.
If you just miss, it's next too impossible to get your aim back on target and track, you end up dumping a mag trying and die like a noob.
It sucks!!! I've found as soon as you miss don't even try to ADS and track, You have unscope, correct your aim on target and shoot again if you want your bullets to register.- @Straatford87 Hey folks,
Just a quick update that we're aware of your feedback and issues related to Aim Assist. Our team is working to get improvements into your hands in an upcoming game update.
Again, we appreciate your patience and the sharing of your experiences with Aim Assist in this topic!
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Hey everyone,
First, thank you for flagging the issues you experienced with Aim Assist, and the additional information we've since collected from you which helped us investigate.
We believe we have found the issue that was causing inconsistent behavior, and have a fix ready which is currently scheduled for the next game update.
More details on the update itself will follow closer to its release. We're looking forward to your further feedback once its in your hands.
Thank you! - @Straatford87 I can provide a video that shows that there is absolutely no snap on or slow down effect when I play on Xbox series X. It doesn't matter if I have both adjustments up to100% or down to zero there is absolutely no aim-assist. It is possibly a bit better if I turn the effect down to 0%, but that is probably just a feeling.
- @Straatford87 I have seen rumors that there should be a fix to aim-assist in the next update in early August. Can you confirm that it's supposed to be in that update?
- Straatford873 years ago
DICE Team
@lionking7001 wrote:
@Straatford87 I have seen rumors that there should be a fix to aim-assist in the next update in early August. Can you confirm that it's supposed to be in that update?Correct, the next game update has a fix for Aim Assist issues when playing with a Controller.
We will share the full Update Notes so you can see what's included closer to the release of that update.
- @Straatford87 Thanks for the information! This is a major issue that have made many of my friends just quit the game. It is impossible to find games out of prime time with crossplay turned off and we who actually have a life is just screwed against M&K
- @lionking7001 Confirm!
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