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UncleSaaly
Rising Rookie
1 month ago

Bots/Portal and Gamemodes

This is going to be a rather long post were I just leave some thoughts on the game after playing for a couple hundred of hours!

Starting with Bots: Personally I think Bots were a mistake. They've been used for XP/Challenge/Unlock farming ever since they've been re-introduced in 2042 (after checking i found out the old era games had bots, thanks for pointing that out) which also leads to Portal being a whole lot of wasted potential.

I don't believe we need Bots! Especially not in Portal. I'd say adding bots was one of the worst things that could have happened to the game.

Portal: Portal could be a good way to incorporate the players/creators who's creativity could deliver us some great extra content in form of new maps. From recreating legendary maps throughout the gaming industry to completely self made ones.

However! Due to the nature of how we enter a match nobody really bothers looking through the server browser to see if there's actually some active servers instead we click on the mode we wanna play and that's it.

A solution? First of all remove Bots. If you give players the tools to farm bots they will do it. 

Having a serverbrowser like we do in BF6 right now is kinda like having the keys to a giant empty warehouse. There's lots of space for great things but no one is taking advantage of it. 

If the browser would work like it used to in past games where you would search through the available servers (official and player made) to find the maps and modes you like and get rid of the "pick and click matchmaking" there would be a lot more interaction between players. Cheaters would be banned, toxic players kicked etc.

Last point: Gamemodes

What else can we say about Gamemodes other than: WE DON'T NEED MORE!

What we need is a healthy amount of modes that work well on the existing and upcoming maps. There were to many modes in the game even from the beginning. By adding more the only thing that will happen is that the player base will be more and more devided and the devs have more work to do to make each mode work well on each map.

The best thing would be to remove some of the existing modes and stop adding more because like i said it splits the community and you just put on more workload. Not to mention that probably nobody is complaining about to few modes.

Who needs to go?

In my opinion you should get rid of: King of the Hill (KOTH), Domination (maybe), Squad-Deathmatch, Team-Deathmatch and Strikepoint (haven't even played it once).

Since the modes above are quite similar (small, infantry focused) it would make more sense to keep one of those instead of having 5.

That would leave us with: Breakthrough, Conquest, Domination (maybe), Escalation and Rush.

That way you can focus on optimization of the existing modes and maps and the player base will be closer together. 

This of course isn't the ultimate solution but I feel like something like this needs to happen.

7 Replies

  • El_Grekoz's avatar
    El_Grekoz
    Seasoned Novice
    1 month ago

    True, i see no point for King of the Hill, at least the way it is played now, and Breakthrough (a Rush mode with capture instead of bomb plant actually), duh...Maybe if they combined those 2 modes in a new one where there will be a true King of the Hill big scale match, 2 teams of 32 players each compete to capture 1 point and if one completes the capture, the fortificatrion system can be back from BFV and then the other will have limited time to take it back.

    Squad Deathmatch has no reason to exist and Team Deathmatch ,a great mode of the past should have the options of 16v16 and 32v32 and 200-250 kills to complete.

    Domination should be changed to Conquest Small, a conquest mode without vehicles with somehow bigger maps than Domination and 500 or something tickets.

    Finally Strikepoint, OMG the worst mode ever (after thank-god-limited-time Sabotage). They should change it to make it more like Counter Strike, like 8v8 or 16v16 and if you die, you wait till round ends.

    I would also love to see a handgun only mode like TDM for example, or a Gun Master mode, again just with handguns.

  • Mexicola9302's avatar
    Mexicola9302
    Seasoned Veteran
    1 month ago

    There is nothing wrong with King of the Hill, Squad Deathmatch and Team Deathmatch. And Battlefield always had bots, it's part of the game.

    What the game doesn't need are modes where you only have one life, if ppl want to play something like that, they should simply play Counterstrike or any other super sweaty game mode like the Redsec Battle Royale crap.

    The main reason ppl bought BF in the past was Conquest, but if there are more modes, if the map supports it that is fine. But no "one life" modes, that is not Battlefield.

  • RatedChaotic's avatar
    RatedChaotic
    Seasoned Veteran
    1 month ago

    You should fact check yourself. Bots were not introduced in 2042. Bots have been in many of the battlefields. You sound like a COD player when you dont get facts right about battlefield.

    2042 and BF6 screwed up by giving the players the option to make the bots static. Thats what caused the bot farms not the bots themselves. We didnt have bot farming in the previous battlefields.

    I stopped reading your post after the first 2 paragraphs. Because you were giving false information.

     

  • The current option is already Matchmaking OR the Community Server Browser. It's unclear what you want when what you want describes what we already have.

    The current Server Browser already has "Official" servers and displays server name, ping, population, server description, map rotation, and filters to find what you are looking for. It displays more information than ever, and more filters than ever. It is unclear what you think is missing from the Server Browser that was present in past games.

     

    Since people CHOOSE not to use the server browser, it is a wasteland except for verified-mode/official servers, hardcore servers, and a handful of flavor-of-the-week custom servers. Because the angry Battlefield Veterans are too lazy to use what they claim they want, it is hard to get an underused thing going, and that's why bots are welcome. Without bots, it would be even more of a wasteland with no purpose.

  • UncleSaaly's avatar
    UncleSaaly
    Rising Rookie
    1 month ago

    There were no Bots when I played (since 3) Also im not trying to spread false information but only some thoughts i have. And you stopped reading but took the time to write a post to let me know you stopped reading?

  • UncleSaaly's avatar
    UncleSaaly
    Rising Rookie
    1 month ago

    That's why I think we only need one of those options. There's lots of potential for player hosted servers with all the setup options (match length, map rotation etc). I just think it's wasted time and effort to keep putting in work into both while only one of them is actually being used . And if they would reduce the amount of modes there would be no need for bots because there's enough players to always have full matches.

  • Rocco44136's avatar
    Rocco44136
    New Adventurer
    1 month ago

    You're WRONG and right about bots. Bots are for PvE against bots in solo/co-op play. BF2042 had it right with bots. There are many posts of people wanting to play PvE against bots and they should be able to play this way.

    Bots in PvP can be replaced with real players... as others join the match. Or start the match with only 8 players and no Bots ever and let the sever fill with people during the match. I don't care which way it is. 

    Lastly, who gives a flying F if xp/unlocks are given when playing against bots.  Nobody should care. Just make bots as intended... and not farming bots where they don't have guns and just stand there to be killed. 

    PROBLEM SOLVED. 

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