Bf 4, 5 flops because off all the arcade gun play and all gun and attachments.... will that what really ruin it for me. And no hardcore. Look at squad a mod that was base off bf game but to a more realistic approach. But still a growing community. But with bf spin off with destruction and AI bot just like battlefront and less teamwork and logistics and allowed 1 man tanking .... and gotta have slide mechanism, factional weapon optional. I think they future of bf might have a chance.... don’t make games for the young gamer teenagers crowd, aim for the older crowd who was around when bf first came out on the realistic cool epic approach. That was cool when I was a kid and I’m pretty sure it will be too for the new generation of gamers

I detest hardcore (and TDM for that matter) but accept that many do. In that respect, I also hope that there is a hardcore mode from launch so the masochists have somewhere to go.Whatever happens, DICE need to abandon the one size fits all 'Hardcore lite' approach, it pleases no one.

Call of Duty's popularity proves arcadey is well receieved. The vast majority of players doesn't seem to want bots in MP and a lot of high profile youtubers even want single player to get the axe as well. With all the debate over TTK/TTD I think the community made it clear a proper Core and Hardcore seperation is needed.Older BF titles are split between old era and modern -- we're burnt out with World War 1/2 and while you don't want anything arcadey/farfetched, we had Battlefield 2142 with concept weapons and stuff and players loved it.I have no doubt the team learned from 5 and will deliver something special.

While I'm not a fan of Hardcore mode myself and prefer the arcade style, I do believe that there should be a dedicated mode at launch for people who do want to play it. There is so little chance of Dice making both camps happy that they probably shouldn't bother. The TTK debacles BFV had highlighted that quite well.

Normal servers for those who want a BF3/4 experience and Hardcore for those who want the no killcam/no spotting etc experience.The only way to satisfy both is to give them their own servers.Sliding can go rot in hell though. People should not do ice skating on soil.

It would make sense for them to offer hardcore from launch. There is a definite and sustainable audience for it amongst Battlefield players. More so than many of the current game modes on offer in the various Battlefield games.That being said, Battlefield has always been an arcadey 'pick-up-and-play' kind of shooter and delivering that kind of gameplay should be their main focus. Hopefully all this extra time they've taken will allow them to offer both soft and hardcore modes.

Semi realistic hardcore approach...

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TTZ_Dipsy
Hero+
5 years ago
Call of Duty's popularity proves arcadey is well receieved. The vast majority of players doesn't seem to want bots in MP and a lot of high profile youtubers even want single player to get the axe as well. With all the debate over TTK/TTD I think the community made it clear a proper Core and Hardcore seperation is needed.
Older BF titles are split between old era and modern -- we're burnt out with World War 1/2 and while you don't want anything arcadey/farfetched, we had Battlefield 2142 with concept weapons and stuff and players loved it.
I have no doubt the team learned from 5 and will deliver something special.
zenn_nme
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
@BadBoiGunNer about Hardcore btw, for me it's: 1 bullet = 1 kill, so health wasn't lowered but damage was maxed through the roof. I used to play 'HC Dom' with mates all the time. But it was changed in BF1/BF5... Wish they bring back 'true hardcore' in the future.
ElliotLH
Hero+
5 years ago
While I'm not a fan of Hardcore mode myself and prefer the arcade style, I do believe that there should be a dedicated mode at launch for people who do want to play it.
There is so little chance of Dice making both camps happy that they probably shouldn't bother. The TTK debacles BFV had highlighted that quite well.
CyberDyme
5 years ago
@zenn_nme wrote:
@BadBoiGunNerabout Hardcore btw, for me it's: 1 bullet = 1 kill, so health wasn't lowered but damage was maxed through the roof. I used to play 'HC Dom' with mates all the time. But it was changed in BF1/BF5... Wish they bring back 'true hardcore' in the future.
Would the ability to modify the Health Level, Health Regeneration and Bullet Damage Multiplier parameters suffice, as we had it in e.g. BF4?
ragnarok013
Hero+
5 years ago
@BadBoiGunNer It honestly sounds like you just want to play Squad. Squad started off as Battlefield 2 "Project Reality" because even the old school BF2 game play wasn't hard core enough for a small portion of the player base.
Noodlesocks
5 years ago
It would make sense for them to offer hardcore from launch. There is a definite and sustainable audience for it amongst Battlefield players. More so than many of the current game modes on offer in the various Battlefield games.
That being said, Battlefield has always been an arcadey 'pick-up-and-play' kind of shooter and delivering that kind of gameplay should be their main focus. Hopefully all this extra time they've taken will allow them to offer both soft and hardcore modes.
Trokey66
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
I detest hardcore (and TDM for that matter) but accept that many do. In that respect, I also hope that there is a hardcore mode from launch so the masochists have somewhere to go.
Whatever happens, DICE need to abandon the one size fits all 'Hardcore lite' approach, it pleases no one.
zenn_nme
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
@CyberDyme Yeah that would be enough. 🙂
UP_Hawxxeye
Legend
5 years ago
Normal servers for those who want a BF3/4 experience and Hardcore for those who want the no killcam/no spotting etc experience.
The only way to satisfy both is to give them their own servers.
Sliding can go rot in hell though. People should not do ice skating on soil.
ILLINOIS1977
5 years ago
I will only play HC mode! I hate softcore! I hope for a true HC made from day 1! The more realistic the better!