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governer7778
6 years ago
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Harvesters should cost to rebuild period

Look harvesters should cost to rebuild only unit once you build two of you get endless supplies of after destroyed...especially if they are allowed to hold pads for if you make them unable to target ...
  • Marine_CorporaI's avatar
    Marine_CorporaI
    6 years ago
    @governer7778 wrote:

    Sandstorm mg combo is pretty unstoppable so is disrupter sandstorm with cheap tech lab you can pump out two pretty quick with dual Harv...seems if balance was the issue leaving it to skill the devs would have caught on to making tech so cheap it’s really ruined the game for a lot of people 

    That I agree with wholeheartedly. 

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TegliG
6 years ago

Harvester rebuild cost is definitely needed, but it is also ridiculous, that everyone starting with double harvester can easily defend the harvester with a single unit. So rushes (jump jet/laser drone) can be easily stopped, not to mention, that if you rush a non-tech deck, you are already spent too much for nothing. Double harvester players can easily spam cheap units to stall the missile. So when you get the first blood, tech units are already ready. You cannot deal with a zone trooper standing next to a wolverine so easily. At that point, you have no chance to reach the harvesters, which are harvesting faster over time. Yes, you can say that bomber, stealth tank is a good counter or bring your own tech units, but this is not the answer if you want to play another style.

Some kind of restricted card list would also give a nice strategic change. E.g. you cannot have zone trooper and wolverine in the same deck, which would force you to strategically defend tech units with non-tech units.

EDIT: Double harvester decks do not even have to stall the first missile. Of course it is risky agains tech/tech splash decks, but aggro will be devastated anyhow.

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governer7778
6 years ago

They won’t fix the rebuild harvesters problem because that favors free to play players who are actually skilled 

  • EinarThePillager's avatar
    EinarThePillager
    Seasoned Ace
    6 years ago
    @governer7778 wrote:

    They won’t fix the rebuild harvesters problem because that favors free to play players who are actually skilled 

    What's with your negativity? The developers won't fix it cause there's few of them to work with. Right now the problem is not the tech but the way tech players abuse the system. You could spam as many harvesters as you want to push your way with powerful tech against players who don't even know how to properly handle tech. The harvester rebuild cost is a great idea to discourage tech and only use them as a last resort. Another way is that you when you choose one tech unit, other tech units will be disabled. Like lets say there should be no disruptor combo with zone trooper or sandstorm but can be paired with titan.

    • TegliG's avatar
      TegliG
      6 years ago

      Allowing a Disruptor to stand next to a Sandstorm is pathetic and not so hard to pull off if you can send endless waves of 10 - 20 cost units to defend the double harvester and delay the missiles a little bit. You have to achieve 10-20 seconds only and a techless deck can surrender.

      • EinarThePillager's avatar
        EinarThePillager
        Seasoned Ace
        6 years ago
        @TegliG wrote:

        Allowing a Disruptor to stand next to a Sandstorm is pathetic and not so hard to pull off if you can send endless waves of 10 - 20 cost units to defend the double harvester and delay the missiles a little bit. You have to achieve 10-20 seconds only and a techless deck can surrender.

        This is why you need to control the pads and harass the harvesters so you can beat a tech deck easily. You have to force a tech user to spend and defend his harvester.

        Suggestion for nerfing tech users is to provide a separate recharge timer for the harvester that's long as a commander's ability. The first harvester costs 40 instead of 60, and the 2nd one costs 80. Once you order the 1st harvester, the 2nd harvester's recharge timer starts. If you lose the 1st harvester, you can order it for free immediately. If you have 2 harvesters and you lost 1, you need to wait just like waiting to use Solomon's Ion cannon, then there's a revive price of 20 tiberium.

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