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Illmanneredj
Rising Novice
3 months ago

Dragon Age & Mass Effect Series

For anyone who is a fan of the Dragon Age and or Mass Effect series. I myself hear a lot of complaints about Bioware now a days some say its going under. I am staying away from internal business stuff in this topic. Though why does the community need to get so toxic? Sure some titles may have not been as good as originally looked or promised. I myself have liked Dragon age Origins Dragon Age 2 and Inquisition very much though I could see some stuff where they could change or do better with. I do think Veilguard is good but to me it seems like it cant hold a candle to the ones that came before. Not to also mention every game has its ups and downs in a sense  somethings could always be better. If they create another Dragon Age at some point most likely I will play it but if it came down to that they should take a step back and review the entire series what works what does not. Kinda go back to the roots of the series. Lets take a look at Mass Effect now. Mass Effect 1 and 2 were great. I cant really speak for 3 because I never finished that one. As for Andromeda it has its nice features in the game. some of the I guess you can say puzzels that the some places have are cool. Though going and being able to change your load out so easily or mix and match it between tech combat and biotics is a example of a down side to it. The story in the game off to colonize a new worlds and such is a cool idea you can just say wasn't pulled off that well. Looking forward to hearing and learning more on the next Mass Effect. Lets speak of Anthem. The game it self had plenty of potential. In many ways though it just did not make it.

At the same time I would advise they take more feed back from the community fans of the games when they go into doing some things in there games to. Be it Dragon Age or Mass Effect or even new projects like they had Anthem. Try and see what their fans want in a game or series.

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  • NoahLGP's avatar
    NoahLGP
    Seasoned Ace
    3 months ago

    The Sims 4 makes several millions of dollar of revenue with FIFA/FC, Madden NFL and Apex Legends.

    Dec 20, 2024

    2024: Year in Review

    EA is unmatched with five of the top 25 HD experiences in the West. This includes EA SPORTS™ FC 25, EA SPORTS™ College Football 25, EA SPORTS™ Madden NFL 25, The Sims™ 4 and Apex Legends™ on the Xbox, PlayStation, PC, and Switch platforms.

    BioWare is a studio with 2 franchises smaller than games developed by Maxis, CD Projekt and Bethesda  :

    • DA franchise : over 20 million copies sold since 2009
    • ME franchise : over 20 million copies sold since 2007
    • The Sims 4 (2014) : over 35 million copies sold before being Free-to-enter in 2022
    • Cyberpunk 2077 (2020) : over 30 million copies sold
    • The Witcher 3 (2015) : over 50 million copies sold
    • Fallout 4 (2015) : over 25 million copies sold
  • WyllRavengard's avatar
    WyllRavengard
    Rising Adventurer
    3 months ago

    THIS sums up the issues!  Sweeping a game under the rug doesn't remedy the problem.

    I wanted - really wanted - to love The Veilguard.  I am still trying to do so, but the more I hear from BioWare, the angrier I get.

    They have said that our expectations were so high they would never have been able to satisfy them.  What a load of crap!  That is just making excuses for not caring about what you put (or didn't put) in the game!

    My advice to BioWare:  Before you "move on to Mass Effect 5," as you stated, you better fix the bull crap you did to The Veilguard if you want your "loyal fans" to even consider buying ME5 when it comes out.  I know that if you do not fix The Veilguard, I will not pre-order, nor will I purchase ME5 when released - unless I hear from other gamers later on that it justifies purchasing.

    BioWare, you need to own your mistakes and fix them and stop making excuses and abandoning games.  Either BioWare or EA, or both, wherever the issues lie.

    Remember your written dialogue from Varric to Rook - A good leader isn't someone who never makes mistakes... It's someone who admits they made a mistake when they do!

    A thought:  If it wasn't for EA having The Sims 4 that keeps on rehashing cheesy expansion packs over and over, I'm curious if EA would even still be around.

  • Sadly BioWare repeats the same mistake these last 7 years :

    • Sacrificing Mass Effect Andromeda (2017) to develop Anthem (2019) : Game updates and DLC cancelled only 6 months after the launch
    • Sacrificing Anthem (2019) to develop Dragon Age The Veilguard (2024) : Anthem 2.0 cancelled in 2021
    • Sacrificing Dragon Age The Veilguard (2024) to develop the next Mass Effect game : No DLC planned

     

    Instead of fixing the games and taking responsibility (CD Projekt spent 3 years to fix Cyberpunk 2077), EA preferred to move on, abandoning the millions of loyal players who purchased and liked these games.

    On one side they neglect the ones who support them all these years and on the other side they neglect the ones who like their franchises but didn't buy these games.

    So I can understand why some players are very angry today. 

     

    “Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action.”

    - Ian Fleming, Goldfinger (James Bond, 007)

  • Illmanneredj's avatar
    Illmanneredj
    Rising Novice
    3 months ago

    Yea the toxic community for some games or developers is a joke honestly it's not just EA. Dragon age Origins had some much content besides leveling strength willpower and all that besides abilities you took you could choose to level up traps potion crafting stealing and all that and replay ability Dragon age 2 had what stance you took in a conversation it showed you basically and the new combat system. Then inquisition free roam and crafting. Veilguard expands on a few things some tweaks with combat the talent system. You still could choose your gender and race which is part of your background along with class. changed a bit from Origins you choose human your either a noble or a circle mage though Veilguard did something different are you associated with the wardens veil jumpers or what? Would like to see that more if theres ever another Dragon Age. Have your race and different backgrounds then expand upon that who are you associated with more or something. Possibly end up a warrior with a body guard or bandit background so you know how to pick locks like rogues.

  • You’ve hit on so many great points here, and it’s clear that you are super passionate about BioWare’s games. I've been a fan since the ME2 days. The negativity in the community lately is hard, and honestly, it’s refreshing to see someone come at it with a more balanced perspective. I'm in a bunch of FB groups about the games and there are a lot of discussions like this all the time. But yeah, not every game has been perfect, but it’s good to appreciate the amazing things BioWare has done while still hoping for improvements.

    Your take on the Dragon Age series really hits some points. Origins, DA2, and Inquisition all have their own strengths, and while Veilguard is fun, I totally get what you're saying. It doesn’t quite have that same spark as the older games. I love your suggestion about BioWare taking a step back and really digging into what made the series so special in the first place. Going back to those roots, while still pushing things forward, could be exactly what the series needs if they ever release another Dragon Age. There are portions of the game that make me want to go play DAO again.

    And Mass Effect, wow, what a journey, right? The first two games were absolute masterpieces, and while ME3 stirred up a lot of mixed feelings, it still had some really strong moments. ME2 will always be my jam though. Andromeda… yeah, it had some cool ideas, like the puzzles and the open exploration, but I get what you’re saying about the execution not landing. The combat flexibility was neat, but it did lose some of that signature class system that people loved. Like you, I’m really hoping the next Mass Effect captures the hair standing on the back of your neck feeling from the originals, and I can’t wait to see what they come up with.

    Anthem—what a heartbreaker. The flying and combat? Amazing. The rest? Not so much. It’s tough because you could feel the potential there, but it just didn’t come together. Your point about BioWare listening more to the community is spot on. Fans like us know what makes these games shine, and it’d be awesome if they tapped into that more when developing new projects. Whether it’s Dragon Age, Mass Effect, or something brand new, hearing from the players who love their games could make all the difference. One aspect I get tired of is when the toxic players take over. They are like the 1% of the player base but make their negative non non-constructive opinions so loud, that it takes away from those who love the games. It's exhausting.

    it’s conversations like this that keep the fandom alive and remind everyone why we love these games so much. I wish social media had more conversations like this and less one-liner negative thoughts!

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