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[Discussion] Potential Updates For Romancing?

Given the responses here and on Reddit, I don’t think it’s controversial to say the romances are not living up to what we were advertised. “The most romantic Dragon Age” this is most certainly not. T...

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Given the responses here and on Reddit, I don’t think it’s controversial to say the romances are not living up to what we were advertised. “The most romantic Dragon Age” this is most certainly not. The entirety of each romance arc is roughly twenty minutes, with characters like Lucanis spending most of that not responding to flirts at all. Not “responding awkwardly”, like Cullen rubbing his neck or shuffling before continuing to speak, I mean not responding AT ALL.

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Is there any chance patches could come in and save this? BG3 and Cyberpunk both had multiple patches that fleshed out their romantic interactions. It’s already been said we’re not getting DLC, but what kind of patches can we expect going forward?

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On the off chance the patches will be more substantial than bug fixes, I’d like to offer a few that could help turn the game around for me, at least. I’ll be upfront that I’m mostly talking from the perspective of someone who has only gone through Lucanis’ romance and has been jaded by the time sink required for a really lackluster experience.

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Obviously there’s bigger gripes about the romances—why only twenty minutes of content? why can’t we talk to them between missions? why no kiss button?—but I feel like this is a few relatively small adjustments that could help ease some of the ick. Maybe others have more, better ideas, I don’t want to write a whole book and a half.

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Additional:

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Given the responses here and on Reddit, I don’t think it’s controversial to say the romances are not living up to what we were advertised. “The most romantic Dragon Age” this is most certainly not. The entirety of each romance arc is roughly twenty minutes, with characters like Lucanis spending most of that not responding to flirts at all. Not “responding awkwardly”, like Cullen rubbing his neck or shuffling before continuing to speak, I mean not responding AT ALL.

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Is there any chance patches could come in and save this? BG3 and Cyberpunk both had multiple patches that fleshed out their romantic interactions. It’s already been said we’re not getting DLC, but what kind of patches can we expect going forward?

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On the off chance the patches will be more substantial than bug fixes, I’d like to offer a few that could help turn the game around for me, at least. I’ll be upfront that I’m mostly talking from the perspective of someone who has only gone through Lucanis’ romance and has been jaded by the time sink required for a really lackluster experience.

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Obviously there’s bigger gripes about the romances—why only twenty minutes of content? why can’t we talk to them between missions? why no kiss button?—but I feel like this is a few relatively small adjustments that could help ease some of the ick. Maybe others have more, better ideas, I don’t want to write a whole book and a half.

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Additional:

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I did think that was a weird choice too. I was planning to do an age gap Rook just for the drama, but not being able to play my actual age at all feels weird when some of the skins seem to be older looking. At least old enough to get annoyed that everyone keeps calling you “kid”.

That’s why I tried to stress I was hoping to bring the brain trust together for potential fixes for all the romances. Lucanis is getting the most flak, and I am definitely part of the problem, but I’m sure there’s tons of little things I haven’t seen in the other romances that could use some adjusting.

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I did think that was a weird choice too. I was planning to do an age gap Rook just for the drama, but not being able to play my actual age at all feels weird when some of the skins seem to be older looking. At least old enough to get annoyed that everyone keeps calling you “kid”.

That’s why I tried to stress I was hoping to bring the brain trust together for potential fixes for all the romances. Lucanis is getting the most flak, and I am definitely part of the problem, but I’m sure there’s tons of little things I haven’t seen in the other romances that could use some adjusting.

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While unrelated to the Lucanis romance, I was really disappointed after having made an older looking Rook to romance Emmrich, only for him to consistently refer to her as young. It takes me out of the immersion and I'd rather have the age related dialogue either be optional or just patched out altogether 

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While unrelated to the Lucanis romance, I was really disappointed after having made an older looking Rook to romance Emmrich, only for him to consistently refer to her as young. It takes me out of the immersion and I'd rather have the age related dialogue either be optional or just patched out altogether 

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Really hoping that they listen to some of these concerns :( The romances were heavily marketed pre release and to have them pan out this way is a letdown 

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Yep, that's because BioWare knows it's what draws the majority of fans to the game, you only need to look at the art, the stories, the mods to see the truth, so it really feels like we've been lied to. These romances are more Mass Effect style than Dragon Age. In fact, the whole game feels like it's been ported on to the ME2 gameplay style. For Dragon Age, it's always been flirt in act 1, romance in act 2, and declaration of love or something like that in act 3. Instead we get lukewarm conversations and no actual romance until the end. 

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Oh!  You are so right... I have felt Mass Effect 2 all through this game.  The only thing they did in this game that they gave up the courage to do in ME2 is to include Taash's storyline.  ME2 had some things they were going to do, then scrapped it all because they got scared that America wasn't ready for it - but, that's water under the bridge.

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