Hello everyone, We've created this mega-thread to collect some more handling feedback after the recent patch v1.3. Please share your thoughts with us but keep it handling-related. It would also be helpful if you could be as specific as possible and include on what platform you are playing.With the recent patch, we've made some changes to the handling system as per your feedback. You can find the full list of adjustments in our patch notes here:https://answers.ea.com/t5/Updates-News/F1-24-PATCH-NOTES-V1-3/m-p/13780097/thread-id/5 We appreciate your input, and thank you for all your passion! Happy racing!

I posted my feedback earlier but it got removed because of spam for some reason. I think it was because I edited it to include a link to the podcast episode Casey was on. I removed that.@EA_Vendcera My feedback below is based on my setup where I play on PC with no assists and I use a Fanatec Podium Wheel and wheelbase along with CSL V3 pedals. I also exclusively do league racing so my feedback is going to be based on the equal performance car in TT and the Grand Prix game modes.The handling prior to the patch I thought had some issues but overall, even with the goofy turn in and the seemingly infinite lateral grip in high speed I thought it was still a huge leap in the right direction and it was a solid foundation that only needed a little bit of tweaking to make it the best feeling F1 game in the series by a mile. Following the update, a lot of the issues in the launch were obviously addressed. The tyres no longer have infinite grip in the high speed corners and when you exceed the lateral grip they let loose quite violently which is exactly what you would expect. However that's where the positives end for me in the updated handling. I've made my voice heard repeatedly in this thread on the issues I have with the updated handling but I'll try and summarize all of them below.Pretty much everything I enjoyed about the launch handling system seems to have been gotten rid of or dialed back excessively. My biggest complaint is the same as @GregStarz and @seichrotierer where the FFB doesn't feel even close to the same. Doing TT was fun before the patch because I understood what the car was doing and I could push it and intuitively feel where I was losing time and when I pushed a corner and gained time I could feel it before I even looked at the delta. Now I just do laps the same way over and over again with no feel from the car and when I lose time I have no idea why and when I gain time I have no idea why because the car feels the same in both scenarios. I'm still able to put in lap times that put me in the top 5-10% in TT leaderboards but the cars just feel horrible to drive with fast setups and it feels like I just get lucky when I can string a solid lap together. Overall this makes the experience of lapping with the car and working on setups a laborious instead of joyous experience. I agree with @seichrotierer that prior to the patch the handling was very reminiscent of the W13 or the Dallara IR18 on iRacing. It obviously wasn't as good as that but it was heading in that direction and I don't think anyone expects this game to feel like iRacing however, the fact that the cars handling felt closer to that than it ever had was a huge indication to me that things were headed in a positive direction that was clearly focused on making the handling feel as realistic as possible. The updated suspension kinematics system in this game was also something I could immediately feel and all of the changes together led to a game that didn't drive like any F1 game before it and I think that was a good thing. The braking in the launch version I felt was perfect and when I locked up it looked like it does when drivers do it in real life and it was in the same type of situations. I hate to keep bringing back up iRacing but the braking in the launch of this game felt VERY similar to that where you almost have to be afraid of the brakes and it was easy to lock up if you held the brakes for too long or if you carried brake pressure into the corners. This was great because you could come off the brakes and coast the car through the corners and feel it grip up more than it would if you tried to hold brake pressure into the corner. This made intuitive sense because the tyres can only do one thing at a time effectively, if you're using them to slow the car down then you can't also use them to turn and expect to get as good turn in.I listened to the episode of the F1 Explains podcast that @cm_caseyringley was on and it was awesome to hear him say that a common misconception people have is that making things more realistic will make them harder, since, as we all know, these cars are the pinnacle of motorsport and have more downforce than they've ever had and huge sticky tyres. That's an excellent summation and I would say it holds true everywhere except braking. The braking is one of very few areas where making it more realistic actually makes things harder but I thought the launch handling implemented this perfectly, it was very realistic and it was rewarding when you got it right which made the cars even more of a joy to drive.In the updated handling the braking feels almost exactly like it did in all the previous F1 games and I have to try really hard to lock my front tyres now. Not only that but the amount of brake pressure you carry into the corners no longer feels like it affects the turn in performance like it did before. Sure if you carry way too much it will mess up the turn in but if you only carry a little then it feels the same as it would if you didn't carry any which isn't how it felt before and it doesn't make a lot of sense to me.Something else that was really nice in the launch version was that you could tell most of the downforce came from the floor of the car because if you kept your minimum speed up then the car would have more grip. In the updated handling it no longer feels like the speed of the car affects the amount of grip it has. There's a noticeable upper bound on the amount of speed you can carry into some corners and nothing about the way you drive seems affects that in a noticeable way. Obviously IRL there's an upper bound on the grip of the tyre which is greatly affected by how hard you're pushing it into the track which is something that increases with the downforce which then also increases with speed in these cars since it forces more air under the floor thus energizing the venturi tunnels and pulling the car down to the track more. It doesn't really feel like these systems are in play anymore in the new update like they were before or if they are then you at least can't feel them like you could before. I really could go on all day about the things that the launch version of the handling did right and how much better things felt because of the amazing FFB giving very detailed information on what the car was doing and those things made intuitive sense to me based on my experience driving single seaters in iRacing. Clearly there were some issues with the launch handling but now from the outside looking in it feels like you all panicked pre launch when people like Alex Gillon threw a fit and then you threw the baby out with the bathwater and gave people something that felt familiar in the hopes it would make them happy but the truth of the matter is that literally nothing you guys do is ever going to make everyone happy and when you take a bold step of completely reworking the way handling feels you're obviously gonna encounter even more resistance than you normally would. People don't like change. None of us here have any idea what driving an F1 car is actually like, neither do Alex Gillon or the other content creators who complained. Someone who does have this experience however is Max and if you all consulted with him on the handling in this game and he told you that it was realistic then I think you all should have had the confidence to stand by that and make only the minor adjustments that were needed to the handling. If making the game fun AND realistic is the main goal then I think you all were much closer to achieving it with the launch handling than you are with the updated handling. It obviously had some unrealistic goofy things about it that could be fixed but it was immensely fun. Driving the cars now just feels like the same ol thing as years past and to have had something fun and then have it taken away makes it suck even more.

@mikyesposto1 "There's still a lot of work to be done to get the feeling of F1 23. "You serious bro? This is f1 24 not f1 23, get with the program, if you don't like it you can still go back to playing f1 23...This is a new game, nobody wants the same game as last year lmao.

@tjmartin-92 Im the complete opposite. I find this alot better than the release version. Theres definitely some things that need to be fixed but its definitely a step in the right direction

This I think was a step back. I have less feel for the car overall, I get wheelspin in the dry in 5th gear, (even easing onto the throttle), the car feels disconnected from the track. It also feels like someone put a heavy weight on the front. Things feel like they conflict with each other. Also while going full lock, or close to, the car just loses speed instead of losing grip. Not sure what is going on with that. It's from one extreme to the other. The wheel can get away with some of this and seems better, but the controller side feels worse. This was a comparison with the same/similar setups, so this may change after modifying them. May not though

I'm a big fan of the handling update, but there's still tweaks to be made. Drifting is still a bit of an issue, as well as the cars simply being too quick. But, the most important thing in my opinion...Please, stop listening to the loud minority when it comes to these things. You guys are the ones that know how to make games, it's important not to fold into the pressure of the loud minority and completely undo hard work. You have some talented developers who know a lot, so use that. You need to have confidence in the fact that what you release is what YOU think it should be, not what some moaners on twitter want

F1® 24 [Megathread] Handling Feedback after patch 1.3

344 Replies

TrypelZ
8 months ago
Before i get started : i am on Controller so i cannot specify anything about wheels. But i usually am a decent controller player ( 105AI etc. )
So after doing some laps at bahrain and japan i can see that low speed corners are more drivable ( prior the car somehow was super twitchy and went mega slow, especially japan hairpin ). Now you can control the low speeds better ( i went from 1:28:5 to 1:27:9 in Bahrain the 2nd lap after the update without even trying with the same setup ). It is a step in the right direction BUT the car now feels a tad floaty ( might be settings though ) and feels " on rails ". The handling surely is better in a handling perspective but dulled down and boring in a gameplay perspective. F1 23 did that perfectly on controller tbh, car's felt nimble and planted, here they jump in between somehow. Still, it is better then before and maybe it will get more fun as i fiddle around with my controller settings/setups more. Good job so far
mikyesposto1
8 months ago
I stand by what I said yesterday. After watching Lucas Blakeley's live twitch of the new management. I tried for an hour, with hard tires and I noticed that unfortunately there are still too many critical issues. First of all, there is still a lot of grip, the car seems to have an infinite camber. Please, Codemasters, reduce the grip of the tracks and solve the problem of the curbs that seem to be missing this year. We have to slow down the cars by 3 seconds and try to listen to the feedback from the esports drivers. There's still a lot of work to be done to get the feeling of F1 23. But I'm convinced that by taking away grip and improving the feeling even more, this year's physics will lead the game to be the best F1 ever. Pushing on the driving model is the only solution in my opinion because this year there are many improvements to the physics and now it's just a matter of finding the right balance with the driving model.
tjmartin-92
8 months ago
If F1 22 and F1 24 had a child, this would be the outcome! Great the front end is not as pointy but the rest of the car is now AWFUL!

Cars are a lot heavier and the understeer through slow speed corners is horrendous.

For me, this is a massive step back on what was released.
LukeMulcahy
8 months ago
@tjmartin-92 Im the complete opposite. I find this alot better than the release version. Theres definitely some things that need to be fixed but its definitely a step in the right direction
ReimvomSchleim
8 months ago
I have used the same setups as before to get the perfect comparison and I have to say the biggest difference for me (on controller) has been the lack of traction out of slow speed corners. On the exit of corner, there seems to be a lot more oversteer than before. I would say it certainly feels better than before but there is still a weird feeling and also way off F1 23 handling.
void_snw
8 months ago
@mikyesposto1 "infinite camber" sounds nonsensical. Too much or too little is bad, in different but severe ways.
I agree that we need to "decrease grip" but just as a blanket statement that makes very little sense. Any less mechanical grip and we're straight back to 22. Where the cars seem a bit crazy is high speed. Now that we have the suspension stuff figured out, we may need to put a focus on how aero is dealt with.
JeffJrxx
8 months ago
I'm on G29 wheel and the game is now more enjoyable and playable!
Front end is not sharp anymore and has less grip. Traction seems better in the way that the car is just not grabbed in the ground which is good.
EA and Codemasters now have to figure out how can laptimes be more realistic and game will become a banger!
roberto9663
8 months ago
Handling is fine, playing on ps5 controller
SteelWalker007
8 months ago
wow, the new handling and tyre model is now great!!! Much better as first release!!! Good Work!! Day 1 Handling was a disaster.
But still no effect when driving over grass or gravel. I wish the car was harder to control in this case.
The FFB effects are also too weak even though I have it at 100%.
Platform: PC
Wheelbase: Fanatec CS DD, Formula F1 V2 Wheel
TigerAlen410
8 months ago
@mikyesposto1 "There's still a lot of work to be done to get the feeling of F1 23. "

You serious bro? This is f1 24 not f1 23, get with the program, if you don't like it you can still go back to playing f1 23...
This is a new game, nobody wants the same game as last year lmao.