Re: Porpoising

In general, I think it will be difficult to incorporate porpoising if it's not "naturally" there, as it is now in F1.

And to simulate the whole thing artificially and get the effects right I think will be difficult should it become a feature in the game, still interesting to see if it comes.

In general it would be very cool to see something like that in MyTeam, so you have to work on it over the year to get a better handle on it. Still, it is for online lobbies if to be provided with an on / off mode, if we should see porpoising at all.

I must admit, it's not something I would like to be included while running 50% or full distance races. It could be murder on the eyes/equilibrium. It must be pretty bad driving it like that in the real thing.

I'm all for simulating the real thing, but sometimes some common sense is needed. Maybe there's a way to include it without shaking the camera too much though?

Interestingly it appears the F1 2021 game physics is already capable of producing porpoising, just with adjustments to current parameters:

https://youtu.be/RYsGX10VvFU

Looks like no porpoising in F1 22 going by today's gameplay videos then.

Just turn on camera shake 😄

@Ultrasonic_77actually its really easy to make the cars porpoise in F1 2021.. All you need to do is double the downforce.. only problem is that the suspension is reacting too fast so the porpoising is higher speed just as in the video..

Depending on how Codemasters approached the F1 22 cars it would be easy to do porpoising, only needs extreme rates of downforce development at higher speeds, so for corners you usually take flat anyway. Mostly rear downforce to not muck up the laptimes by enabling us to take every corner flat as long as we are going 300 kph haha

The problem isnt even necessarily introducing upgrades to be able to use lower ride height without worse porpoising or such. The problem i see for it to make it into F1 23 SHOULD it remain IRL is the AI.. Train them to a lot of different ride heights? To specific ride heights depending on the track, the upgrades etc.? They would need an actually intelligent AI to adapt to conditions etc. because i wouldnt want porpoising in if the AI is forced to a single ride height, porpoising like crazy on some tracks which causes them to loose tons of time in a straight line (ingamephysics) and then being fine on others..

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@Tibi2199 wrote:
@Meza994I'm sorry, but you don't know what you are talking about. I guess you are saying that it's easy to create porpoising in the physics engine (so it's not scripted, and happens at certain speeds etc.). It's really not that simple, Codemaster's only solution is to make it scripted, but then it would look bad.

There's no way Codemasters can implement actual porpoising into their physics engine, when the actual F1 teams in real-life also couldn't replicate porpoising in their simulator. It's just not happening

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Have you watched Alex Gillon's video that I posted above? This makes it look rather more doable to me than you're suggesting?

Or is your point that it's possible to get something that looks like the effect seen IRL but is actually something different?

Porpoise is doable, even more so with the plank physically bottoming out now in F1 22 as the esports guys did point out in their videos. I agree that for the AI it would be a nightmare, perhaps that's a big reason for not making it in the game atm.

Same here, I think it'd be nice to have it as option to turn on.

I guess it would affect the car setup and maybe forcing drivers to lift floor to avoid "screen shaking" 😉