Are the rumors actually true about Miranda?
I preordered on steam and when i opened the forums up i see tons of threads saying they changed cut scenes of her azz so it doesn't show it? IS this true? That would be a shame because i really don...
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Unfortunately EA wil alwaysl listen to Twitter feminism activist instead of us, real fans and players. They're too scared of backlash from Twitter.
Bioware said âI do think a lot of things have evolved since [the original games],â meaning rise of feminism, MeToo and scandals in Hollywood
EA, do you will still continue ignoring real fans and YouTube?
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@instasamka95 Omg I've been wanting to do this for ages, mention the youtube videos. Also they need to understand that there are hundreds if not thousands of people commenting per video saying how upset they are about censorship and say they will not be buying the game etc. This needs to be taken seriously EA/Bioware!!! Also it makes people lose faith in the next ME if its being created with this kind of mind set.
Unless EA will stop acting "sexy female characters are bad and sexist", i will never buy anything from your company.
Sadly you value their opinion more than fan's:
Twitter
Kotaku
Polygon
ResetEra
Anita Sarkeesian
Zoey Quinn
@Princess_Catra congrats this is so far the hottest post on the ME LE forum, lets hope this gets some attention from EA/Bioware.
Edit: Again: Can someone explain? The original title was "Are the rumors actually true about Miranda?" and then the new title i see in my email notifications is "EA censored Mass Effect and ignores real players..." Did it get changed and just hasnt updated everywhere yet?
Also i know the first four but who the heck are anita and zoey? are they games journalists or celebrities?
Anita Sarkeesian is a feminist activist. She is know for series of videos "Tropes vs Women" where she criticizes designs of female characters like Lara Croft in Tomb Raider: Underworld for being "sexy"
In 2019 she visited Bioware to teach them how to make "right" female characters...
She also doesn't play videogames at all.- @nissan180sx95 lol well. My views on feminism are not appropriate for a mass effect forum so I'll leave it there xD
Her video has 50,000 dislikes, and still, EA values her more than us
@GrimReaperTaken wrote:
Edit: Again: Can someone explain? The original title was "Are the rumors actually true about Miranda?" and then the new title i see in my email notifications is "EA censored Mass Effect and ignores real players..." Did it get changed and just hasnt updated everywhere yet?
Also i know the first four but who the heck are anita and zoey? are they games journalists or celebrities?
It is likely that a thread or post was merged into this thread and the forum is acting wonky. If you look at the top of this thread after clicking on last post to get here, then likely it will say EA censored, but if you go to the first page and look, it says Are the Rumors actually......
So I think the forum is just being wonky about this.
- @nissan180sx95 She visited them? Oh god game over...
@Sky2k5Yes she did. âšī¸ https://twitter.com/anitasarkeesian/status/956644302301552641
And seems like Bioware aren't happy with her visit: https://youtu.be/6NHGLQkxBcg
Lol comments:
"Professional liar and political hack."
"Why does anyone allow this chick anywhere???"
"It's shocking that woman is still relevant"
"Last I checked everyone hates Anita sarkeesian"
"Anita "I never played video games until it profited me" Sarkeesian.""I will never support anything that brings on Sarkesian on principle."
- @nissan180sx95 LOL!!! that's great news they have antibodies
@instasamka95 hell yeah! and don't forget liara đ
@Sky2k5 wrote:
@Princess_Catra congrats this is so far the hottest post on the ME LE forum, lets hope this gets some attention from EA/Bioware.
I'm not convinced this bout of internet clickbait requires any attention from EA/BioWare other than to stick to their artistic vision. đ
- @SofaJockeyUK "I'm not convinced this bout of internet clickbait requires any attention from EA/BioWare other than to stick to their artistic vision."
Yeah Stick to Casey hudsons, Derek Watts and the other on the original teams artistic vision i couldn't agree more with you! - @SofaJockeyUK I ( and not I alone ) disagree, this is not clickbait, and I think it does require attention from EA/BioWare as it is obviously a hot topic. We obviously have a difference of opinion but I think that all sides of the argument should be reviewed and considered at least.
- @SofaJockeyUK
So censoring = Artistic vision.
Actually I am not even surprised by this now... which is sad. @budzaiit was not only him it was signed off by at least 3 people that i know of might been more. they should rewrite the ME3 ending that's for sure since 5 ex Bioware devs came out saying its basically junk "https://www.thegamer.com/mass-effect-3-ending-controversy-dev-opinions/"
but ME2 cant really be rewritten since one voice actor is dead Robin Sachs as Zaeed Massani (RIP) so if they rewrite the story they would need to re write a lot of dialogue and hire a new voice actor which i would really not like since Zaeed is my favorite companion as soon as i get Zaeed and Kasumi i never swap xD- @Sky2k5 it sure is a hot toping sadly mostly on youtube not so much here where devs might actually be lurking.
All they would need to do is make a Toggle switch in menu "do you want new scenes" check or leave for original. give us the players and fans the option and let us decide of original "Artistic vision" was better - @Naala Really? I remember someone from BW sad he (Casey) had closed himself in the room and just had done it. And didn't let anyone to try to criticize it.
And the problems of ME3 wasn't just the ending. It had some good thing Salarians vs Krogen. Truians vs Krogen. Asari's hiding the tecnology etc, but the main mission was chasing a deus ex machina (which came out of nowhere).
And this problem comes from ME2. Because there we were fighting against the collectors, a new enemy and we didn't do nearly anything against the Reapers.
Not to mention they destroyed the Reapers identity. They were lovecraftian monsters (in ME1) but in ME2 "ah, yes Reapers" "That was just a big geth warship" Yeah... Sure turian dude... and you guys have an iq of 80 or less? I think BW chickened out...
And both episode had stupid ground fight against a reaper... Jesus...
Plus there is Liara... a timid archaeologist becomes the shadow broker a few years later. Yeah... Just BW pet things, like with Morrigan in Dragon age. A sociopath, antisocial, sassy witch becomes a chief adviser to an empress... yeah very likely. @budzaiHuh seems i totally missed the boat on that one here i thought i heard it all but seems i got slightly more digging to do very interesting!
oh yes i am fully aware of all those things plus all the other plot holes and "decisions matter EXCEPT those we choose to ignore in third game" like the rachni it was supposed to be a super big decision kill or let go but nope didnt * matter at all
Liara becoming the shadow broker and morrigan adviser to the empress i see both possible to happen there been many people who gone from the gutter to be politician or something else in high regard so this isnt impossible does it fit their character? NOPE!! but people can change both Liara and Morrigan was surrounded by very influential people for years that can affect them, did i like it? in Liaras case yes... in Morrigans its 50/50 i loved it coz i got my favourite char from Dragon age around me once again but what they did to her felt like she became a chicken in comparision to her earlier days.
The way i see the mass effect trilogy is like this ME1: investigate. ME2 Survive. ME3 80% Politics and 20% retaliation, retaliation might not best word of choice but i think u get my picture.
Main issue with ME3's ending or well ME3 in general is that it disregarded most of the choices in previous games at least thats how it felt to me also it was supposed to be the definitive end to the trilogy nothing more after that.. until they puked up Andromeda so going back to it now seems like a big WTF to me best would be to set it long long into the future at the end of Liaras life where everyone else is dead basically but then why bother going back? ugh so much of this shi't that dont make sense.
Like the entire legendary edition dont make sense.....
First thing i would do if i was in charge of it would be fire who ever it is that is so "Exited" about lens flares taking up half the screen The more i look at the comparisons the more disgusted by them i get :S i guess he / she never heard about "Less is more"
This screen made my day taken from Mass Effect Legendary Editions home page mhm totally accurate right?- @Naala I have read it on the good old biowaresocialnetwork or something like that was its name. There was a thread about it. I hope I remember right.
Well, okay everything is possible, chaos theory, butterfly effects whatever. But realistically people might change their ideology or world view, but their core nature? Not really...
Personally I don't like how Liara and Morrigan were handled. Morrigan would use her kid to commit mass genocide sooner than becoming a nice mom. Especially how her own mother raised her.
Liara also had the problem of how blatantly BW pushed her as cannon love interest. Well guys, here is a thing: asaris are ugly.
I think I get your picture but the problem imo that ME2 should have been about building an alliance against the reapers and the third one should have been about the war. But both of these was in ME3...
Yeah working for Cerberus thing was good in theory, but it just created more problem with the story, and take away the time from building up the scene for the final conflict. It would have been a good a spin off though. My two favourite ME mission is still in ME2 though. The one on the dead reaper (the lovecraftian imagine was back there) and the suicide mission (expect the final boss) for obvious reasons.
And yes of course choices don't matter is a huge problem but I only listed my main story problems on the top of my head. So no argument from me here...
ON the end of the day the core problem with these two game series was that BW had good concepts but didn't have the balls to stick with them.
Because if Reapers are as strong as in ME1 the damage should have been way bigger in ME3.
And in Dargon Age... pro-trans Qunaris... They would be the last race to tolerate it. - @budzai All good points of how things could have been, despite that just a reminder to EA/BioWare that we are hoping they at least make sure they don't do any unwanted changes the majority do not want, or at least give us an option for "original mode" to enjoy the original cut.
btw x.x I had liara for all 3 games lol, maybe I like em blue :D
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