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Re: NHL 24 Reveal

@KlariskraysNHL 

With the amount of control 6’s players have, they should in theory be the easiest to please.

 

If the gameplay changes are what I think they are, I’m very curious to see how they are received this year.

I can only laugh at the timing of the leadership change this year, not that I’m saying it’s in any way bad timing, but it almost gives them another “just wait until next year” version to release for the fourth year in a row.

 

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  • TTZ_Dipsy's avatar
    TTZ_Dipsy
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    3 years ago

    The same Ross who said the game was perfect and my team just doesn't know hockey and sucks got a promotion, that's a lovely thing to see first thing in the morning lol.

    At least they publicly said 23 wasn't good - that alone is a good sign since they have always refused to take even 1% of the blame...

    It was mentioned earlier that it'd be nice to have real NHLers chime in on the game - They've had the likes of Gretzky, Crosby, McDavid, etc. play the game, do streams, and go head to head with teammates and I may just be seeing what I wanna see, but any excitement looks so forced and even they commented about the easy goal jank/cheese the series is known for.

    Of course Nasher is going to promote the game like crazy, if his HUT packs aren't given to him by EA, his fanbase supplies him with the rest; he gets so much merch and is even given mic and screen time at NHL games - I'd be a fanboy too.

    If the supposed new gameplay is as good as we're hoping it is, the offline community has nothing to worry about since they can further tweak sliders to better suit them - the online community sorta gets what they get and that's it.


  • @TTZ_Dipsy wrote:

    If the new supposed new gameplay is as good as we're hoping, the offline community has nothing to worry about since they can further tweak things offline - the online community sorta gets what they get and that's it.


    This part doesn’t really make sense to me. Ever since NHL 14, the offline game modes have gotten worse. There have been “new” features added, but Franchise Mode itself is cobbled together with duct tape and superglue. 
    We’ve had to fight tooth and nail just to get basic bug fixes for our game modes, and 8 out of 10 times we are ignored, 1 time we’re told no, and then we might get lucky and get a bug fix. Which usually ends up either breaking something else, or not even fixing the bug. 

    unless they fix the AI, and split it ( the AI is supposedly passive so that HUT players can’t rely on godlike defending from their AI) which makes gameplay for offline players absolutely abysmal because we can’t trust any player on the ice, then I don’t really see any significant changes for offline game modes. EA can spout all kinds of hopes and dreams, but they also said we were getting a huge presentation upgrade last year and we all know how that went.. 

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    3 years ago

    @007hockey 

    Offline HUT has always been a bland experience - when I speak of "offline" I usually mean the simulation crowd who creates their own league and players; AI there can be changed for the better (give or take).

    Full 6v6 clubs can bypass all the AI issues but 3v3 and I guess parts of HUT is just plain awful. Like, I get we shouldn't rely on the cpu but they also shouldn't be going out of their way to sour the experience either. 

    For me personally, the team should have focused on fixing the current (at the time) bugs and saved presentation for when they finally ditch old gen

  • KlariskraysNHL's avatar
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    3 years ago
    @TTZ_Dipsy I mean Nasher is a celebrity when it comes to the NHL game. He has a deal with Bauer and works with the NHL. He promotes this game a bunch even off his streams. He's a strong social bridge for the community. Maybe not the 6s or offline community exactly but he's doing his best to promote.

    At the end of the day we have to hope the new people in charge are wanting to create a game that will bring people back and revolutionize mechanics that have gone stale/undervalued.
  • @TTZ_Dipsy Alright, I thought you mean offline game modes as in Franchise, Seasons, BAP. Those are untweakable in their current state. EA holds all the cards and they only ever deal us a pair of twos at best.

  • @007hockey wrote:
    @TTZ_DipsyAlright, I thought you mean offline game modes as in Franchise, Seasons, BAP. Those are untweakable in their current state. EA holds all the cards and they only ever deal us a pair of twos at best.

    @007hockey 

    I disagree here… The OFFLINE part is plenty tweakable ! I can honestly say that I have a pair of Kings in my hands now 😉

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    3 years ago

    @PernellKarl027 wrote:

    @007hockey wrote:
    @TTZ_DipsyAlright, I thought you mean offline game modes as in Franchise, Seasons, BAP. Those are untweakable in their current state. EA holds all the cards and they only ever deal us a pair of twos at best.

    @007hockey 

    I disagree here… The OFFLINE part is plenty tweakable ! I can honestly say that I have a pair of Kings in my hands now 😉


    I think the offline features other than gameplay are what is being said that can’t be tweaked.

     


  • @TTZ_Dipsy wrote:

    The same Ross who said the game was perfect and my team just doesn't know hockey and sucks got a promotion, that's a lovely thing to see first thing in the morning lol.


    He never once said the game was perfect and never admonished a team for not knowing hockey. A lot of the Hockey IQ Gods around here took his rebuttals (backed up with detailed logic behind the mechanics) as him saying they 'didn't know hockey' but he was clearly trying to explain that a) it's a videogame and liberties need to be taken and/or b) you likely made a mistake in any given scenario, and rather than just saying that, he laid out precisely why things played out the way they did.

    And then, of course, the over sensitive Hockey IQ players took it as an 'attack' and rather than try to understand his logic, they would just berate him. And because their echo chambers led them to believe they were 'right' in their attacks on Ross, they continue (to this day) to think they knew more about a game than the people who actually developed it. 


  • @Beauts90 wrote:

    @PernellKarl027 wrote:

    @007hockey wrote:
    @TTZ_DipsyAlright, I thought you mean offline game modes as in Franchise, Seasons, BAP. Those are untweakable in their current state. EA holds all the cards and they only ever deal us a pair of twos at best.

    @007hockey 

    I disagree here… The OFFLINE part is plenty tweakable ! I can honestly say that I have a pair of Kings in my hands now 😉


    I think the offline features other than gameplay are what is being said that can’t be tweaked.

     


    @Beauts90 

    I kinda get what you are saying in a way, but there’s lots of things you can tweak offline besides the gameplay. You can create custom seasons, with custom teams and by changing sliders/settings/roster for the BAP mode, it can bring a whole new dynamic to these said modes…

  • Beauts90's avatar
    Beauts90
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    3 years ago

    @PernellKarl027 

    While I agree with you to a point, the core of these modes are not able to the tweaked and have been less and less “custom” in the last few years.

    The coaching, scouting and drafting systems are a mess and we are locked out of what we are able to change in order to play the game how we want to play it.

     

    Custom leagues are cool, but in my opinion they only give different ways to play what I can only describe as a broken or unfinished mode.

     

  • TTZ_Dipsy's avatar
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    3 years ago

    @KidShowtime1867 

    Heh no, he literally said those things - I don't care if it was just a case of him having a bad day, I'm petty enough to never let it go, just like whoever was in charge of the Facebook account in the day.

    Anyway, back on track here: the reveal is close upon us! Really hoping we'll all be happy

  • 007hockey's avatar
    007hockey
    3 years ago
    @PernellKarl027 Like Beauts said, the core mode is untweakable. They removed any form of customization when they locked us out of editing strategies and being able to edit players and prospects. Coaches and scouts are purely static, and are a complete mess.
    Creating custom seasons and custom teams isn’t tweaking in my opinion. It doesn’t do much in altering the game mechanics. Sliders and settings do jack all anyways since that’s gameplay. There is no tweaking available for offline modes. Just a slew of bugs and broken features

  • @007hockey wrote:
    @PernellKarl027Like Beauts said, the core mode is untweakable. They removed any form of customization when they locked us out of editing strategies and being able to edit players and prospects. Coaches and scouts are purely static, and are a complete mess.
    Creating custom seasons and custom teams isn’t tweaking in my opinion. It doesn’t do much in altering the game mechanics. Sliders and settings do jack all anyways since that’s gameplay. There is no tweaking available for offline modes. Just a slew of bugs and broken features

    @007hockey 

    I agree to a certain point, but for me that likes to play my games, I have revamped the gameplay quite a bit and that is the fun part for me…

    The other day, I tried the "Simulation" sliders and I honestly thought I was playing arcade 😆

    I agree on the Franchise mode tho, it could use allot more tweaking !

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