I'M BAAAAAACCCKKKKK!!! (For another rant)

The game hasn't changed!!! - This is false. The devs have been adding some changes small and big, with a huge update in the works which is why we're currently have Plant Pass reruns. We recently got an update that added a restart button to the pause menu (finally woo!) and added Shards and Chucks back in the shop for Gems (Shards are priced extremely well, Chucks I think are too expensive). Some older changes is the Sticker Album - which I loveeeee, and mini-events, like Dave's Daily Do-Its which is for New Players, along with UI and QoL improvements.

With leveling, it's quite clear you're not quite upto date, since an update a long while ago fixed the issue where Tier 1s could be much more powerful than Tier 2s and 3s. The current version of PvZ3 Evolved has made it a lot more fun to fuse your plants together. Whilst Leveling still exists, it's not required to beat the Adventure Levels. 

There has been no plant locked behind paywalls at all. All plants you can get for seeds (unless they're in an ongoing Plant Pass, in which they will be available in the Almanac after the Pass ends), or for free from mini events, and achievements. Seeds are extremely easy to get as you get them for adventure levels and achievements, so its very easy to unlock lots of different fusions.

The game still has issues, particularly the levels being quite repetitive, and the elemental system locking you into using specific sets of plants for a bunch of levels in a row, but it is improving.

if you didn't played the game please search how to do it. leveling is VERY optional, but leveling gives you some perks after getting to level 5 and 10. this game is completely free to play. you can collect all plants as a f2p.

So, lemme break it down question by question:

Question 2 - Can you play 3e yet? I feel that giving feedback based on secondhand sources (especially when a lot of said sources get their information from outdated gameplay) isn’t a good reason to suddenly be an expert. It’s actually incredibly easy to play the game outside of your region, so it’s worth giving the game a honest try first.

Complaint 1: Tell me, what level is your Punk Shocker? Using Cabbage-pult as an example, mine is at Level 10, while my Cab-Barrage is at Level 4, if memory serves. Barrage outdamages Cabbage. As the user above me said, things have changed drastically - spamming Tier 1 plants is no longer the play (and if your sources say otherwise, then that further proves my response to Question 2, in that you may be basing your opinions on outdated information). Levelling isn’t even as mandatory for progression as it was before. Yes, you’re making the game harder for yourself, but it also isn’t as brutally hard as it was prior to Title Update 0.5, by a long shot.

Complaint 2: As someone who is actively against Generative AI, I can tell you for a fact that the ads aren’t using AI. Compare a PvZ3 Evolved ad to its Chinese counterpart (which is well known for its AI usage at this point), then you’ll see the difference clear as day.

Complaint 3: They aren’t? Yes, you need to unlock them via the Plant Pass now when they’re in the pass, but you get the plant for free at Level 17, and if you miss the chance to get it, you can just unlock it using (Wild) Seeds. As already mentioned, these are handed to you on a silver platter and aren’t terrible to grind. Yes, I’m not keen on the premise (even as a P2W player myself), but that’s exactly why this is in Early Access: so they can test it with the Snow Conifer pass, see that people aren’t happy with the execution, then revert it for whoever is next.

Major Complaint: Let me be frank, you’re comparing apples to oranges here. You don’t exactly know how big PopCap are these days (since don’t forget, EA ≠ PopCap, just because EA owns PopCap doesn’t necessarily mean they have team members from other studios going over to PopCap o help with development), the example you gave are primarily companies who have been around for years (since the 80s for Nintendo, in terms of gaming, 90s for SEGA, and PocketPair’s PALWORLD is a completely different genre to Plants vs. Zombies, so that’s also not something that you can compare).

Anything else has already been summarised previously, but I’ll also add that it’s incredibly clear that the devs are being more transparent, telling us exactly what they’re doing and why and evidently being open to adjusting plans (case in point, Cold-slaw being both a hated and financially profitable pass. Rather than completely repeating history with Buzz Choy, they also added additional plants to that premium pass, rather than being Buzz Choy and its ingredients alone again), there’s even a whole segment in the blog posts now that spell out the plans to us. 

You did not in fact see it in enough places to accurately give feedback 💔

(Question 2)I'll have you know I'm on iOS, which is widely considered the hardest platform to get foreign games on, as you basically have to create a whole new account and risk your primary one, and being 13, that's not something I'm capable of just yet.

For the record, you don’t need to make a whole new account to change regions on iOS. Your proof? I have an iOS device and have changed my region to download apps from Japan and China, so I know how easy it is.

As for the levelling, I’m fairly sure it’s non-negotiable. They can make it not as punishing, but I mean, the game needs some sort of monetisation besides the Plant Passes, being a F2P game and all. It isn’t going anywhere and won’t be going anywhere I’d say. They can make it more accessible to F2P players, but they aren’t gonna scrap it. I’m also not saying that’s why they have it, I just assume it to be the case.

Well, we're all different. If you're capable and willing to mess with fragile settings to play that game, then I'm glad for you. But me? If you didn't read my last post (which I doubt many did), I'm only in 8th grade right now, so I don't have the same abilities you might. But this is all under the water now; I don't think I'll post another discussion until I actually play PVZ3 for the first time. So my mistakes are all accounted for. 👌

I just wanna be clear: You are completely forgetting the math here. Yes, a cab barrage will almost ALWAYS outdamage a SINGLE cabbage pult, but quick reminder that it takes FOUR of them to MAKE a cab barrage. So let's say, hypothetically, cab barrage does 120 damage at level 1, 30 per shot, and cabbage pult does 30 damage. But once you level it up to level 2, say it does 35 damage now, for the exact same price, four cabbage pults lined up now do 20 more damage than fusing them into cab barrage, which, even with the new balance updates, is still actively hurting the core gimmick PopCap wants us to use.

I watched a yt video about pre 0.5 pvz3 and here is my argument 💔