barrel of the nonsense
( please ignore the comparison in the picture but read it after you finish the thread ) this will be kind of a logical debate so please put your love and belonging to sneaky heroes aside, and let's...
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Sneaky can move, it’s true. Using smoke bomb most of the time. Smoke bomb is a tempo card, so now you’re 2 for 1- ing and sacrificing a tempo play to kill a plant... yeah, that’s fair.
What your analysis fails to take into account is the fact that in order to trade up (bad zombie for good plant), you still have to spend a zombie. So Barrel is not a kill spell + a conjure. It’s a zombie + a trick for a conditional kill spell + a conjure. The condition is usually that the plant player tries to trade up by playing a good plant AFTER you have placed a bad zombie, or failed to protect a plant to which a zombie was in opposition.
Really, you’re drawing the wrong comparison. Barrel is most like a reverse Eyespore. Eyespore (2 sun... not 5) can be used to kill any opposable zombie at the net cost of one card (Eyespore). Barrel can be used to kill any ... *opposed plant that can be dealt at least one damage by said zombie* at the net cost of.... one card (the zombie you place) and one brain.
Barrel has the potential to be better due to its lower cost.
Eyespore has the potential to be better due to its having fewer conditions, and the fact that you have an open lane for face-damage after placing your plant.
Barrel gives you a random card... which means its overall utility when all is said and done is random. Random doesn’t mean “good”... although it does mean “sometimes good.”
Barrel doesn’t make the cut in many of my sneaky decks b/c it’s also a dead card when you don’t have a zombie on the field (it’s completely unplayable). When you’re playing, say, berries (which are popular right now), you don’t want a card that you want to play on small zombies... because your small zombies never stick.
What your analysis fails to take into account is the fact that in order to trade up (bad zombie for good plant), you still have to spend a zombie. So Barrel is not a kill spell + a conjure. It’s a zombie + a trick for a conditional kill spell + a conjure. The condition is usually that the plant player tries to trade up by playing a good plant AFTER you have placed a bad zombie, or failed to protect a plant to which a zombie was in opposition.
Really, you’re drawing the wrong comparison. Barrel is most like a reverse Eyespore. Eyespore (2 sun... not 5) can be used to kill any opposable zombie at the net cost of one card (Eyespore). Barrel can be used to kill any ... *opposed plant that can be dealt at least one damage by said zombie* at the net cost of.... one card (the zombie you place) and one brain.
Barrel has the potential to be better due to its lower cost.
Eyespore has the potential to be better due to its having fewer conditions, and the fact that you have an open lane for face-damage after placing your plant.
Barrel gives you a random card... which means its overall utility when all is said and done is random. Random doesn’t mean “good”... although it does mean “sometimes good.”
Barrel doesn’t make the cut in many of my sneaky decks b/c it’s also a dead card when you don’t have a zombie on the field (it’s completely unplayable). When you’re playing, say, berries (which are popular right now), you don’t want a card that you want to play on small zombies... because your small zombies never stick.
hey hey .. you got a very wrong point , " barrel of barrels " is not a game winning card , or at least it's not supposed to do , it's more like a supporting card
a card like those all useless or average low use like all the 1 cost uncommon cards
I MEAN, you are playing a whole game with zombies and tricks that you can win by moving around and strikethrough and doing tons of things without using a 1 cost trick, it's a game of 40 cards and the more valuable cards are the most useful ( supposed to ) , so we are not talking about a necessity here.. it's a 1 cost uncommon trick
but it does change the whole game
i'm not complaining about it's existence
i'm complaining about it's price , comparing ti it's classification as just uncommon and abilities for killing any plant and drawing a card ( another barrel that can be a barrel of barrels again )
it can be priced as 3 and still be uncommon and draws another barrel
it can be 1 but super rare and draws another barrel
and so on...
and yet , i repeat , NO 1 COST UNCOMMON CARD IN THE WHOLE GAME DRAWS A CARD , and this kills a plant too !!!
and by the way, eyespore isn't a good card , many times you want to kill a zombie that is facing a weak plant , not in an empty lane ( frenzy and strikethrough ) , and it costs 2 , and it doesn't draw cards , and you need another plants to play , so you need more suns ( barrel can be played on a plant already played so you don't need more brains ) , and yet it costs 250 to craft because it's rare .. barrel of barrel costs 50 ....
I MEAN HOW DARE YOU EVEN COMPARE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
keep in mind that rare cards should be more useful to uncommon cards
see ?!!!!! this absolutely NONSENSE
thank you for picking such card to make my point even stronger
and by the way, i can tell 100% of sneaky decks use barrel , i can place my bet and if not i will delete the whole game
