Your Best Session
Share either your latest or all-time greatest battlefront sessions!
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@TRlALON Yes and I’m not surprised. The way the nerfed claw rush it’s not as good of an offense ability as it once was. Yeah it used to be broken and I’m not so upset that it ignores dodge since it can only damage any one player one time (it can damage multiple players but not any one more than once) so that seems fair.
What you’re seeing with Vader is because there really isn’t a proper parry mechanic in the game and combined with the haphazard strike staking and input recognition it becomes total RNG feeling to strike swap; especially with Vader. Unless his stam is all but gone I wouldn’t try it.
That’s one of the issues we see with the game, it doesn’t play consistently. You can do the same things in different matches and get different outcomes because of the underlying mechanics. One thing a developer should never do is totally revamp the gameplay method and that’s essentially what we got in some of the latter updates. Another long standing contributor on this forum led a great campaign to get the Devs to (partially) correct changes to how players transition from dodging & blocking, which, was so bad it was game changing.
And the thing to remember with blaster users is that their whole concept is distance damage. That’s why they have a blaster and why their damage output is so high. The whole point is to deal damage to an opponent while you’re out of their attack range. For this reason most blaster users have solid crowd control save for a couple (Leia & Finn are very lacking here). The combo of high damage plus crowd control itself is fine but once you add in higher mobility with dodge immunity and dodge recharge then you have a broken combo which is what we see out of users like Han, Chewie, and Iden.
Say what you will about BF 1 2015 but I LOVED it. No, it didn’t have a campaign but I was ok with that. We had great multiplayer maps, troopers that worked well, heroes and villains that worked well and worked consistently. It’s an example of how less can be more. If EA had simply expanded on that recipe with BF 2 we’d be golden but they over worked it as though it’s a Skyrim title with all of these mechanical conditions and logical imbalances that work against the good things it has going for it.
@VetteC5RXYeah the biggest deal of saber users is simply that they bring a sword to a gunfight.
Main work is done by abilities while the saber itself often just serves as side weapon to finish off ranged opponents.
The infantry modes portrays this really well, too much suppressive fire means no way to just straightforward walk up and slay them, tactics and force support is eventually needed. Tanks and open maps with few covers are a threat too if you try to get closer to someone.
How well it works to mainly just use the sword is visible when trying to play as Dooku in infantry modes. Forget about it with combat rolls and stuff being a thing.
Rey maybe has no range too, but at least it's possible for her to get rid of the pesky minimap info, sneak up to them and obliberate anyone in a chain with the dash once close enough.
BF2015 allowed much freedom in customization, the most annoying and cheesy aspects of the BF2015 are combined in Iden Versio lol.
@TRlALON Yeah as a saber user in large game mode maps you really have to be careful about how you approach or you’re going to get mobbed by blaster fire; and that’s ok, that makes sense. In those modes Heroes & Villains are supposed to be a supplement to the match, not dominate it and while I feel that “mostly” is the case it really isn’t in many ways, especially when you have multiple blaster heroes & villains on the field.
In HvV it’s really bad. They really killed the HvV & HS game modes with the imbalance.
Iden is great in story mode; in multi I can’t stand her, she’s broken. It’s not a huge adjustment either, a reduction in damage from Alt-fire would make her good & balanced but as it is now she can just spam alt fire for free large AOE damage, even if it’s right at her own feet! Same with Hans Charge; it’s un block-able and does crazy damage. The other thing I haven’t been able to figure out is how blaster users can maintain fire during disruptions like pulls & knock backs. I don’t know whether it’s the game trying to execute the input stacking or whether the mechanics don’t fully apply or what. For example Kylo can freeze a Leia or any blaster user and see two or three shots still fire after the freeze; or in the case of Kylo’s pull, Annakins pull or even Luke Push the blasters will still fire while they’re disrupted which minimizes the disruption greatly.The Devs have to remember to go back to basics. This is a huge franchise and many players gravitate toward characters they like and to have them so imbalanced that they’re depending upon one particular gameplay aspect or they’re dependent upon support protection reduces the gameplay flexibility. People can’t play the game they want to because if they want to win they have to play in a way to exploit the broken parts.
@VetteC5RXDon't remind me of these continued shots of people when pulling or pushing them. The game seems to attempt to sync both things together somehow, while the blaster user won't notice this weird behaviour at all on his end.
Same when you suddenly die and the guy on the other end tells you that he wasn't pushed or pulled at all, even when you see him being ragdolled away. That happened too, mix it with lag.
Remember how the devs had to fix the AI behaviour in Co-op that allowed AI soldiers to keep shooting all the way while being pulled?
These are the things
ToddGod Howard likes lmao.i get hype any time i have a competent enough team to win jabba's palace as rebels in extraction
@computerson Try Co-Op as the Empire on Endor 😂😂😂 .. phase 1 sees you having to defend 3 command points with only a 4 man squad and AI spawning from literally all directions; many of which aren’t accessible by the players.
#Dieforthecause
The only time co op isn’t fun is where there’s like a billion AI taking the last CP for themselves.
Coupled with the 8 second (?!?!) spawn timer and how far away you spawn + depending on teammates’ availablility
@FearfulWarpIIWether co-op is fun or not, for me, depends on side and map.
some of the scenarios are just mind bogglingly bad. The last phase of Mos Esley as the Empire is a joke .. one small point to cap that’s overly cluttered with scenery too low to move around but not high enough to cover and being clapped on all sides ... no bueno
In most of the scenarios the design of the hold or capture point combined with the AI spawn makes it often overly aggressive. It’s appears as though the AI are supposed to come in from various directions, and they do, but just as often you’ll have one direction clear and as soon as you turn around an AI has spawned right behind you and you’re mobbed.
in some of the maps & scenarios the end phase is just messy; the amount of enforcers and specials that spawn and spam rockets or thermal imploders is ridiculous.
It’s not an awful game mode but it could definitely use some polishing.
Back to topic: After a very long round of supremacy, I got a new kill record.
Well, we needed 4 attacks on that dreadnought until we finally won while the enemy had the chance on our ship 2 times as well, so you can imagine how long that game was.
It really felt like a Clone Wars battle; we rushed the Republic with hordes of clankers but clanker brains just didn't get anything done on that Venator.
I've never witnessed something like this before, but it was really hilarious lmao
- @TRlALON How can I learn this power?
@soapy_catusesYour opponents needs to be a halfway competent defender team that loves camping corners with Clone Commandos and ARC soldiers on the dreadnoughts.
Also it was funny how the team in this match adapted to the fact that I was using Grievous often on both ground and dreadnought maps so their top players kept using heavies instead of assaults and officers as previously, knowing that then the surgical strike at least wouldn't one-hit them anymore due to the higher HP.
Your team needs to consist of players that fail to realize that the Commando Droids for such scenarios really aren't the best choice and keep ignoring that the B2 Super Battle Droids exist too.
That's how you'll get a row of unsuccessful dreadnought assaults (Even as Bossk I can't do all the attack work alone) and a long kill grind for yourself.
- @VetteC5RX omg that level is so frustrating. if you don't have a squad you stand very little chance
- @TRlALON this had to have been like a 2+ hour match. yikes!
@computersonThis is exactly how it was lol.
Though from my time as Battlefield 3 veteran I'm used to it. Server admins would often set really high ticket numbers on conquest servers like 999, so one match could take really long there as well.
- @TRlALON If only OT Supremacy had ship phases and ST Supremacy had 1 more map (Starkiller) added to it, all 3 Supremacy eras would truly give the sense of pride and accomplishment. PT Supremacy is really the only one with a complete vision, and I ain't a prequel fan boi or anything even though I still enjoy the era.
- @computerson
Yes, now we are back on topic.
