3v3 territory war?

"keiths9216;c-1851295" wrote:
We've had so much 3v3 practice in GA. Does this community seriously not know how to do it yet? 3v3 is nothing new already. I know which teams are better on D and which are better on O...just transfer those ideas and methods to TW.

No ???

It really makes no sense. A huge portion of the community hates it and CG doesn’t seem to care. In fact they increase the amount of 3v3 ga/tws. For arguments sake let’s say 60% like it (highly doubtful) and 40% don’t. You’re still alienating 40% of your player base and losing customers because of it. You would think they would try something else that both sides liked more but they’re just like “Nah we don’t care if people quit because of it.”

lol... 3v3 TW is simply a game of which guild has the most DR+Malak teams...

SWGoH is simply a game of who has the (most) Revan/Malak/Falcon/current_dominant_toon...

"Jaxom;c-1850832" wrote:

"NoMack;c-1850824" wrote:
The whining on this thread may be the most hilarious I've seen on these forums. Changing ONE TW seems be ruining the lives of countless individuals. The poor guild officers will be forced to spend days locked in their rooms preparing for the gargantuan task of teaching their members how to tackle the never-before-seen 3v3 format! How can they be expected to deal with such a change? What if their opponents have Malak? It's on a holiday in one country for gods sake! Doesn't CG understand that there are competitive guilds out there where a difference in one zeta-mat may result in the ultimate failure of their members? Change is bad and scary, so please leave things the same forever; that's how we want this game to be.

I don't see whining, I see people who play this game for one reason (winning highly competitive TWs at the highest tiers) making logical and legitimate arguments as to why this is a terrible idea. What I do see is you bashing those people for no reason. If you'd like to make a coherent argument in support of this 3v3 TW, feel free to do so, but if you're purpose in posting is to point out that everyone else is a whiner, feel free to keep your opinions to yourself.

I like you, I like you a lot!

So refreshing to see a good mod here reading through things and understanding concerns! :)

3vs3 means DR Malak is dominating.
Any suggestions to beat DR Malak?

"Gorem;c-1851808" wrote:
3v3 is an interesting idea, however in this game it doesn't really work at all. There is so many factors in play that organising 50 people is going to be a nightmare.

Making it near impossible to really make it a competitive environment. All zones are most likely going to have more placements too, so there might likely be a zone with like 40+ DR squads that make you just quit. It doesn't take a genius to know that 3v3 tw is a bad idea, in fact a child could tell if the child had any common sense or read the actual constructive posts in this thread alone, unlike the people who just post "I like 3v3" as a pointless post or a post that actually personally attacks the people trying to be constructive.

"Kokie;c-1851740" wrote:
It's because internal data shows them the large majority of players prefer 3v3. The handful of vocal voices on the forum hardly are representative of the hundreds of thousands of players.

Exactly how does internal data show that people like it? has their been an in game survey? is this determined by 3v3 participation in GA? Are people (for some unknown reason) not signing up to GA just because its 5v5 and purposely missing out on rewards to only sign up for 3v3?

So when thousands. and I mean THOUSANDS of posts from individuals, all who play this game, including the thousands upon tens of thousands of reddit posts, all say tw banning was a bad idea and they go ahead with it anyway, just means nothing at all? Surely Only the people against it spoke out and everyone for it didn't, surely when I asked my guild and they all said they hated it but I was the only one posting in public, surely that doesn't mean anything, right?

No matter what we say, our feedback has never mattered. That's the truth. There is no "internal data" showing people "Like" 3v3, There is no "large majority" there is no need to lie like the devs do. Which then gets another lie post replying to you. 3v3 TW is going to happen even if a million people posted disgust at the idea, even if it caused the game to die forever it would still come out.

We are posting ideas as to try and help this situation, right now DR/Malak teams are breaking 3v3 because unless you mirror them, you have to throw everything at them to beat them. There needs to be changes made to the 3v3 format to prevent broken defence teams. Or more thought needs to be put into it before we have a 3v3 tw. Or just cancel it and do it right and do a 5v5 so we can actually have competitive fights without droids that decide to die on the first turn while doing nothing.

You just showed you have no idea what you are talking about. The fact so many GA's are 3v3 proves their internal data is telling them more people prefer this matchup. Companies dont make random decisions....they are all based on data and hard numbers. You can say what you will but this game generates massive amounts of money and they are not going to purposely alienate large portions of the player base.

"Jaxom;c-1852047" wrote:

"Kokie;c-1852046" wrote:

"Gorem;c-1851808" wrote:
3v3 is an interesting idea, however in this game it doesn't really work at all. There is so many factors in play that organising 50 people is going to be a nightmare.

Making it near impossible to really make it a competitive environment. All zones are most likely going to have more placements too, so there might likely be a zone with like 40+ DR squads that make you just quit. It doesn't take a genius to know that 3v3 tw is a bad idea, in fact a child could tell if the child had any common sense or read the actual constructive posts in this thread alone, unlike the people who just post "I like 3v3" as a pointless post or a post that actually personally attacks the people trying to be constructive.

"Kokie;c-1851740" wrote:
It's because internal data shows them the large majority of players prefer 3v3. The handful of vocal voices on the forum hardly are representative of the hundreds of thousands of players.

Exactly how does internal data show that people like it? has their been an in game survey? is this determined by 3v3 participation in GA? Are people (for some unknown reason) not signing up to GA just because its 5v5 and purposely missing out on rewards to only sign up for 3v3?

So when thousands. and I mean THOUSANDS of posts from individuals, all who play this game, including the thousands upon tens of thousands of reddit posts, all say tw banning was a bad idea and they go ahead with it anyway, just means nothing at all? Surely Only the people against it spoke out and everyone for it didn't, surely when I asked my guild and they all said they hated it but I was the only one posting in public, surely that doesn't mean anything, right?

No matter what we say, our feedback has never mattered. That's the truth. There is no "internal data" showing people "Like" 3v3, There is no "large majority" there is no need to lie like the devs do. Which then gets another lie post replying to you. 3v3 TW is going to happen even if a million people posted disgust at the idea, even if it caused the game to die forever it would still come out.

We are posting ideas as to try and help this situation, right now DR/Malak teams are breaking 3v3 because unless you mirror them, you have to throw everything at them to beat them. There needs to be changes made to the 3v3 format to prevent broken defence teams. Or more thought needs to be put into it before we have a 3v3 tw. Or just cancel it and do it right and do a 5v5 so we can actually have competitive fights without droids that decide to die on the first turn while doing nothing.

You just showed you have no idea what you are talking about. The fact so many GA's are 3v3 proves their internal data is telling them more people prefer this matchup. Companies dont make random decisions....they are all based on data and hard numbers. You can say what you will but this game generates massive amounts of money and they are not going to purposely alienate large portions of the player base.

ummm I'll bet you a ban-war that you're wrong....

You can bet all you want but do you really think anything is just random in this game? CG is built to make a profit and there are people smarter than us pulling the strings. I'm simply tired of people saying most players hate x and love y when those claims are based on personal bias.

https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/202855/developer-insights-padme-amidala#latest

"Skylicus;c-1852077" wrote:

"Kokie;c-1852057" wrote:

"Jaxom;c-1852047" wrote:

"Kokie;c-1852046" wrote:

"Gorem;c-1851808" wrote:
3v3 is an interesting idea, however in this game it doesn't really work at all. There is so many factors in play that organising 50 people is going to be a nightmare.

Making it near impossible to really make it a competitive environment. All zones are most likely going to have more placements too, so there might likely be a zone with like 40+ DR squads that make you just quit. It doesn't take a genius to know that 3v3 tw is a bad idea, in fact a child could tell if the child had any common sense or read the actual constructive posts in this thread alone, unlike the people who just post "I like 3v3" as a pointless post or a post that actually personally attacks the people trying to be constructive.

"Kokie;c-1851740" wrote:
It's because internal data shows them the large majority of players prefer 3v3. The handful of vocal voices on the forum hardly are representative of the hundreds of thousands of players.

Exactly how does internal data show that people like it? has their been an in game survey? is this determined by 3v3 participation in GA? Are people (for some unknown reason) not signing up to GA just because its 5v5 and purposely missing out on rewards to only sign up for 3v3?

So when thousands. and I mean THOUSANDS of posts from individuals, all who play this game, including the thousands upon tens of thousands of reddit posts, all say tw banning was a bad idea and they go ahead with it anyway, just means nothing at all? Surely Only the people against it spoke out and everyone for it didn't, surely when I asked my guild and they all said they hated it but I was the only one posting in public, surely that doesn't mean anything, right?

No matter what we say, our feedback has never mattered. That's the truth. There is no "internal data" showing people "Like" 3v3, There is no "large majority" there is no need to lie like the devs do. Which then gets another lie post replying to you. 3v3 TW is going to happen even if a million people posted disgust at the idea, even if it caused the game to die forever it would still come out.

We are posting ideas as to try and help this situation, right now DR/Malak teams are breaking 3v3 because unless you mirror them, you have to throw everything at them to beat them. There needs to be changes made to the 3v3 format to prevent broken defence teams. Or more thought needs to be put into it before we have a 3v3 tw. Or just cancel it and do it right and do a 5v5 so we can actually have competitive fights without droids that decide to die on the first turn while doing nothing.

You just showed you have no idea what you are talking about. The fact so many GA's are 3v3 proves their internal data is telling them more people prefer this matchup. Companies dont make random decisions....they are all based on data and hard numbers. You can say what you will but this game generates massive amounts of money and they are not going to purposely alienate large portions of the player base.

ummm I'll bet you a ban-war that you're wrong....

You can bet all you want but do you really think anything is just random in this game? CG is built to make a profit and there are people smarter than us pulling the strings. I'm simply tired of people saying most players hate x and love y when those claims are based on personal bias.

CG have proven time and time again they don't care about player feedback. If they are looking at hard numbers than they are looking at the wrong ones. I know people in most of the top 20 guilds, I couldn't name 5 of them that are happy with the state of the game.

You seem to be confusing "care" with "do as I say because I say it". They clearly care else the game would end today but if what you seek/desire doesn't fit into their metrics or long term plans they can't implement it at the time you wish or perhaps not at all.