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8 years ago

A different perspective on PhoenixGate

I consider myself to be a pretty objective person, but sometimes even I can get caught up in everything. I'll admit I was a little frustrated when it was first announced Phoenix were required for the Thrawn event. When this happens I usually take a step back and let things blow over before I form my final opinion. I felt like it was a good time to reflect now that the event has been over a few days. It should go without saying, but these opinions are my own and I don't expect them to reflect the majority of the player base.

What did CG do right? Everything (almost)

Before I cover the good, the elephant in the room needs to be addressed. The devs handling of the flash event bonus tier was awful. I don't know if they didn't test it before release and frankly I don't care. They compounded the issue with poor communication. Far too often we have a lack of communication from the devs which hurts the game and needs to be fixed.

As I said I was frustrated at first, but after looking back on it I think the devs handled it all very well (minus the bonus tier of the flash event) and made Thrawn very attainable for anyone who plays this game even semi seriously including F2P. Making all Phoenix not just F2P but easy to farm was very generous. Shipments, cantina, hard node, guild/fleet/GW/cantina store and the shard shop + they had double drops for Phoenix. If you couldn't unlock Thrawn you had no one to blame but yourself.

Let's take a moment to focus on Ezra who in my opinion is the best member of the Squad. Seeing as how he was the most wanted Phoenix toon it would be perfectly understandable from a business pov if CG had left him P2P only, or even just shipments. Instead they not only had him in shipments, but he was in the Fleet store, Shard Shop and Cantina 2-B!

Moving onto the Thrawn event: Seriously, that intro was great. The gameplay was fun and most importantly it wasn't very difficult. After having to spend so many resources farming Phoenix it was nice not having to waste very much gear to unlock Thrawn. Tier 5 was easy to beat with gear 7 Phoenix and I personally beat tier 6 with 3 gear 7s and 2 gear 8s.

Onto Thrawn himself: Obviously he's not that great on defense, but he is huge improvement offensively for most teams and should help people reach higher ranks than they've ever previously achieved. He's also completely viable even at 5* in top tier of arena. He's great for Arena, Raids, GW and I assume ships too at some point in the future.

Flash Event: I already made my point regarding the bonus tier, but I was completely shocked by the rewards. A whole Stun Cuff and Furnace + 3 zetas! These are without a doubt the best rewards they've ever had in this game and feel well earned given the amount of resources needed to unlock. I know this varied from person to person but I had 20 Stun cuff and 40ish Furnace salvage drop from tier 3 which was a nice bonus. I should also add the bonus tier was very easy to complete with only gear 7 Phoenix which I very much appreciated.

Lastly now that I've written an entire book: An all round great toon who's viable at 5*, a complete Stun Cuff and Furnace, 3 Zetas and a goal to work towards that spiced up the normal monotonous routine made this one of the best months SWGOH has had imo.
  • "danrussoa;c-1150336" wrote:
    What movie was thrawn in?


    Books, not movies
  • Totally agree with the OP. :)
    Now waiting for the Phoenix to get some Zeta-love. ;)
  • "Gabriel710;c-1149947" wrote:


    You sound very salty and I really don't know why. There were several posts from F2P that 7* Thrawn with $0 spent, look them up yourself. And had I chosen to 7* Thrawn I wouldn't have needed to purchase a single shard from shipments to do it.


    So you chose to NOT make him viable for rancor and HAAT... ? Seems legit.
  • in conclusion, you can't change people's minds who disliked the phoenix/thrawn release.
  • "SolidStripes;c-1150011" wrote:
    "Maegor;c-1149942" wrote:
    "iAmRyC;c-1149907" wrote:
    I agree with you on all points, I thought it was a well planned event that made you work for some toons that you may not have focused on at all. It gave Phoenix Squadron a purpose and you got a character with a great kit in Thrawn that pretty much anyone could unlock before the event ended.

    They also did what they needed to do on the business side of things. If you wanted to get a 7* Thrawn (for Heroic Pit & Tank), you must likely needed to spend some cash for crystals or even the pack that was offered. Dev's that don't get paid take their work elsewhere.

    Capital Games, thank you for the event and I hope this is the beginning of new and exciting things to come for SWGOH!

    https://swgoh.gg/u/iamryc/


    They been getting paid on every other regularly released toon. Scratch that. EA/CG have been getting paid for those toons. Devs receive a salary.

    Thrawn needing money to 7* changed the rules for legendary toons. Now legendary characters will be paywalled.


    What? Most f2p didnt get yoda or palp above 5* the first time around, many didnt get them at all.

    Edit: and we got stuck with garbage Eeth Koth :P


    The difference was you COULD have had Palp or Yoda if you had been farming those characters. There was no way to farm Phoenix without crystals until just before the event, and only those who had hoarded resources could get him 7* without spending. I barely got him as FTP and that was only because I had lots of currency saved up, including shard shop currency I had been saving for Ahsoka, finish top 5 in arena everyday so I could refresh cantina energy 3-4 times.

    They should have timed this better so that Phoenix went FTP earlier, or the Thrawn event started later. Even if they didn't announce Phoenix was actually needed. Then we would have only had ourselves to blame for not working on them when we could have.
  • "Bulldog1205;c-1150682" wrote:
    "SolidStripes;c-1150011" wrote:
    "Maegor;c-1149942" wrote:
    "iAmRyC;c-1149907" wrote:
    I agree with you on all points, I thought it was a well planned event that made you work for some toons that you may not have focused on at all. It gave Phoenix Squadron a purpose and you got a character with a great kit in Thrawn that pretty much anyone could unlock before the event ended.

    They also did what they needed to do on the business side of things. If you wanted to get a 7* Thrawn (for Heroic Pit & Tank), you must likely needed to spend some cash for crystals or even the pack that was offered. Dev's that don't get paid take their work elsewhere.

    Capital Games, thank you for the event and I hope this is the beginning of new and exciting things to come for SWGOH!

    https://swgoh.gg/u/iamryc/


    They been getting paid on every other regularly released toon. Scratch that. EA/CG have been getting paid for those toons. Devs receive a salary.

    Thrawn needing money to 7* changed the rules for legendary toons. Now legendary characters will be paywalled.


    What? Most f2p didnt get yoda or palp above 5* the first time around, many didnt get them at all.

    Edit: and we got stuck with garbage Eeth Koth :P


    The difference was you COULD have had Palp or Yoda if you had been farming those characters. There was no way to farm Phoenix without crystals until just before the event, and only those who had hoarded resources could get him 7* without spending. I barely got him as FTP and that was only because I had lots of currency saved up, including shard shop currency I had been saving for Ahsoka, finish top 5 in arena everyday so I could refresh cantina energy 3-4 times.

    They should have timed this better so that Phoenix went FTP earlier, or the Thrawn event started later. Even if they didn't announce Phoenix was actually needed. Then we would have only had ourselves to blame for not working on them when we could have.


    Yes we COULD with an IF but had no idea a legendary was going to happen. We had a vague hint. Yoda was the first and no one knew what a legendary event was. I had lumi and jc 7* but most good jedi were chromium only and anakin sucked balls, so had to scramble to get eeth koth and jkg to 5* being the easiest to farm.

    Then we had a month to prepare for "empire rises" or some vague hint like that. If you don't get on the forums, and most players don't they just play, you don't know if you need to build empire, rebels, ewoks? And still yet you don't know its going to be a legendary event cause so far the yoda event is the yoda event, maybe they have something more creative and different coming who knew?

    IF you were lucky to just HAPPEN by random chance to have these toons then lucky you, but it can't be denied that all legendary events were made to increase spending. And evrything else in game for that matter so why is everyone mad?

    Want to play? Have to pay. Way of the world.
  • "Plokoon187;c-1150604" wrote:
    "Gabriel710;c-1149947" wrote:


    You sound very salty and I really don't know why. There were several posts from F2P that 7* Thrawn with $0 spent, look them up yourself. And had I chosen to 7* Thrawn I wouldn't have needed to purchase a single shard from shipments to do it.


    So you chose to NOT make him viable for rancor and HAAT... ? Seems legit.


    I chose NOT to spend every last bit of my resources to gain an extra star. I have no reason to use him in raids since I already have 7* GK and I always post 0 damage in Rancor. Letting my guild mates have the top spots is the best way for my guild to improve as a whole. So yes, it is "legit" lol
  • "danrussoa;c-1150336" wrote:
    What movie was thrawn in?


    @danrussoa he wasn't in a movie, he was from a book, and he appeared in Star Wars Rebels (TV animated show)