CG crooks stole a total of 15 relic levels

You are forgetting that they nerfed the characters, ergo the value in materials you get back is not worth the same as when you initally invested in them. The game has changed and getting some materials is easier now than it was, market value of the materials has changed as well.

This is not a simple exchange of getting materials back so you can use them to upgrade the character again because if you do that, you will be left with the two characters at the same relic level but weaker than they were before.

For those saying the same materials were refunded, so it is fair...  It's actually akin to bait and switch, aka fraud, which is prohibited by law/FTC.  They use a multitude of in-game resources/gear to obfuscate the cost of the end product we ultimately pay for.  But to simplify it, you could say the materials we bought is less valuable since it no longer produces a character as strong as originally advertised.  In other words, when a character is nerfed, the in game currency used for it has been devalued as well.  So we've been refunded something of lesser value than what we paid for.   And this still ignores the other payment decisions made surrounding this character build, such as building out the rest of the squad or the mods tailored to that character. 

This. It is a very simple concept. Ezra is obtainable via conquest, and was working well with a GL that has existed for a long time now. They are losing out on revenue since you can obtain Ezra via Conquest, so you don't have to spend anything on GLAT (which includes taking Plo Koon to Relic 8 - I don't see them buffing any of the characters that are required to get GLs).

What CG is doing is also most likely not legal since they are taking something from you that you payed for. Thy have the right to change the characters as they want to but they went into every players account and took something from them that had more value than it does right now. 

This drama could all have been avoided if they had simply not removed the relics from the characters and the omicrons, but refunding the mats used to upgrade them nontheless.

I had Ezra and Merrin messed with to, but CG gave me enough compensation back to get my characters back to where they needed to be and I had my Ezra at Relic 10. Both of them are right back to where they were before they messed with them. 

CommanderBarcara​ 

There is one small issue with your comparison. In WoW, you can still play non-meta classes and challenge the meta with skill, counters and a bit of luck.

In Swgoh, CG dictates the meta by knowingly unbalancing the game, and the meta is always what you need to pay for. 15 dollars per month vs 300-1000 USD for a new meta being introduced monthly or bimonthly.

You can say "this is what CG does" but if you want to compare these games let's start by saying that farming Mythic+ in WoW or pushing Rated BGs or Arena is hella fun. And I can login whenever I want and use all my characters and play content that is befitting of their gear and level. 

I agree with what you wrote, however this is nothing new for CG.  They made Jedi Revan amazing for 2 months then put dark side Revan and he was meta.  This game has always been chase the meta.  Just last year Palps, StarKiller, Mara, Old Ben and CLS were pretty amazing now the team is broke up and Cash fueled maul is the team to own.  Same with ships, Levi is Queen.  

CG is always about money, so they’re up to something.  There’s a new mode coming that will require the Era Toons only or some such that will generate money and the Legacy will fall out.  Every toon now has a LSB or LST to get to at least R5, bypassing Carbanti, Kyrotech and other bottlenecks. And they now loosened up omega and zeta.  That points to some sleazy mode coming to squeeze more money for r11 r12, or they’re going LOTR route and parting with Disney because Bob Iger, their champion, is now gone.  

harvestmouse1 wrote:

pretty white face girl

CommanderBarcara wrote:

It’s pretty clear a lot of people have never played WOW or SWTOR MMOs.  These companies have re-balanced toons over the years like turning on / off a water faucet.  Blizzard is notorious for nerfing toons the day of release or days after players have invested in the toon.

The big difference here (I don't play either, but I'm going by games I know), is that balancing is done to balance all characters.  I.e. make it so every character is worth taking, rather than something being amazingly OP, so you only play that.

SWGOH has a definite tier list.  Jabba vs little pigman from ESB is not a competitive match up, in any shape or form.  Jabba vs 1000 little pigmen still isn't competitive.  Jabba'd eat so much pork, he'd need to go and see a heart doctor right away.

CG are using this balancing to decide how they think the tier list should be; rather than trying to make things equal.  What they've done here is chosen 2 champs that won't really bring in much income (Rey & pretty white face girl).  Totally ignored teams that are really causing issues, as there's money to be made there.

Because of this and the fact they seem to be utterly clueless about Kyber GAC, you have to question their ethics for making these nerfs.  Is it really because of 2 characters making these teams over-powered? Or is it because they're doing too well for effectively zero income?  I think it's fair to say, it's probably somewhere in the middle.  Which side of middle......well that's subjective.

It’s pretty clear a lot of people have never played WOW or SWTOR MMOs.  These companies have re-balanced toons over the years like turning on / off a water faucet.  Blizzard is notorious for nerfing toons the day of release or days after players have invested in the toon.  Death Knights are a prime example of a meta toon meant to take on three other toons and then they were nerfed hard.  This game is no different.  The devs can tune characters to anything they want.  Datacrons are rented power to bring old toons relevancy.  It’s a game, if you can’t adapt go read the Iliad and the Odyssey or other Greek mythology and learn to overcome unforgiving RNGesus Gods 

I stopped spending any money and I’d spent like 2Gs over a decade. But overtime I didn’t get my rewards from various events or actually using shards to grab gear and it would glitch and not give. Me the items but kept my shards and never once did they compensate my with anything 

I’m so lost at this. Is this a “I’m pissed they got nerfed post”? If that’s what it is, for the love of god don’t hide it in some weird ambiguous paragraph….

No you’re not going to get the money/crystal’s etc back. I’m sorry you feel it was ONLY worth it for Exra (sem-loosely understandable complaint)….or Merrin (gtfo- This was hardly a standard or even reliable counter and people stopped putting Jabba on D anyways..). 

There are certainly strong characters worthy of those same resources you can invest them in. 

So weird…