My apologies if this has already been explained, but I've read a lot of conflicting information. Most players seem to think that the character bonus of lvl 9 only requires the specific character to be relic 7. But this suggests otherwise:There is also this bit. "Provided that the requirements of all previous bonus mechanics in that Datacron have been met." The previous levels require relic 5 for the entire squad.Let's say I roll LS, GR, JMK. Which of the following describes the minimum requirements to activate JMK's bonuses?1. JMK at r7. Nothing else matters (James Alan Hetfield / Lars Ulrich, © Creeping Death Music)2. JMK at r7, either solo or with a GR team at any gear level3. JMK at r7, either solo or with a relic 5 GR team4. JMK at r7, either solo or with a relic 7 GR team

3 makes the most sense to me.Or 5: I'll find out the hard way.

Both in the road ahead and Q&A they have said 3. But I guess we'll find out.

Looks like level 9 really does require "squads at or above relic 7", just like the description says. Level 4 already requires a full r5 team. At r3, the datacron can be equipped but is downgraded from level 4 to 3 so the last bonus doesn't apply. The same would happen with a level 9 DC on a squad that doesn't meet the all-r7 requirement.So I guess we're supposed level a DC to 9 and reroll until we get that sweet JMK bonus, all the while believing we won't have to take Snips all the way to r7 because the Road Ahead said r3. Then GAC is about to start, the expensive DC turns out to be partially useless, sunk cost fallacy strikes again and we buy another relic pack. It's the little things.

Almost nobody makes full relic 7 teams, it's usually rel7-8 for main characters, rel5 for those less important - supports etc. Only whales make full rel7 and it's targeted for them. So they could win easily and spend some more money.CG makes the same dumb mistake over and over again - instead of making a lot of players spend a little, instead of bringing new features to make playerbase happy and bring new players, they bring more toxic mechanics to make the few whales spend a ton of cash while pushing away every other type of player.

Datacron level 9: "in squads at or above relic 7"?

perfidius44
Rising Newcomer
3 years ago
"crzydroid;c-2368320" wrote:
"Darth_DeVito;c-2368318" wrote:
"crzydroid;c-2368305" wrote:
The road ahead said r5.

I didn't check what it said, I just took your earlier word for it.

"crzydroid;c-2367480" wrote:
Both in the road ahead and Q&A they have said 3. But I guess we'll find out.

3, as in number 3 on your list, which says target at r7 and others at r5.

If in-game text could be corrected it would be great. If a few players who do not visit forum relic characters to benefit from a lvl9 datacron, they will be punished for trusting what’s written.
Persimius
Seasoned Traveler
3 years ago
"Starslayer;c-2368340" wrote:
"crzydroid;c-2368320" wrote:
"Darth_DeVito;c-2368318" wrote:
"crzydroid;c-2368305" wrote:
The road ahead said r5.

I didn't check what it said, I just took your earlier word for it.

"crzydroid;c-2367480" wrote:
Both in the road ahead and Q&A they have said 3. But I guess we'll find out.

3, as in number 3 on your list, which says target at r7 and others at r5.

If in-game text could be corrected it would be great. If a few players who do not visit forum relic characters to benefit from a lvl9 datacron, they will be punished for trusting what’s written.

It's even worse because for the last 6 years whenever there was a discrepancy between a post and text in game we have been told that in game is always correct.
NicWester
3 years ago
Syntactically, what this is saying is “Activates on character in squads. If they are at or above relic 7.”
Persimius
Seasoned Traveler
3 years ago
"Ultra;c-2368356" wrote:
"NicWester;c-2368347" wrote:
Syntactically, what this is saying is “Activates on character in squads. If they are at or above relic 7.”

Yep. That's how I'm reading it, CG could've worded it better and removed "in squads" portion of the text entirely to be less ambiguous for readers
"EgoSlayer;c-2368310" wrote:
"Ultra;c-2368308" wrote:
"EgoSlayer;c-2368300" wrote:
"Ultra;c-2368299" wrote:
"Darth_DeVito;c-2368281" wrote:
Looks like level 9 really does require "squads at or above relic 7", just like the description says. Level 4 already requires a full r5 team. At r3, the datacron can be equipped but is downgraded from level 4 to 3 so the last bonus doesn't apply. The same would happen with a level 9 DC on a squad that doesn't meet the all-r7 requirement.

So I guess we're supposed level a DC to 9 and reroll until we get that sweet JMK bonus, all the while believing we won't have to take Snips all the way to r7 because the Road Ahead said r3. Then GAC is about to start, the expensive DC turns out to be partially useless, sunk cost fallacy strikes again and we buy another relic pack. It's the little things.

target character needs to be r7 not entire squad, rest need to be r5 not r3

Is that official, or is that you guessing? Because it literally says the entire squad must be R7 for it to activate 'Activates on target character in squads at or above Relic 7'. In English that means the all characters must be R7 for it to activate on that target character.

So guessing then? Because the interface description and the Relic requirement indicator both contradict that statement.

I don't have to guess when that's what they have communicated several times up to the release of datacrons

Except historically when they have communicated something that is contradicted by how it gets pushed to the game then the game is right and the CM is wrong. Now all of a sudden what the CM says is right and what the game says is wrong?
Persimius
Seasoned Traveler
3 years ago
"dogwelder79;c-2368360" wrote:
"At or above relic 7" complements "character", not "squads". Or that's how CG says we should understand that sentence. But native speakers should know better than me, so correct me if I'm wrong.

What it says in game ...

Activates on target character in squads at or above relic 7

As a native speaker, as written that tells me that the level 9 bonus will only activate on a specific character if the entire squad is at relic 7 or above. Maybe this was just a leftover and got missed or something, and it's definitely not what's been communicated to us on the forums.

But instead of CG coming out to clear up the miscommunication all we have are mods that spent years telling us to trust the data in the game instead of the words on the forums to now trust the words on the forums instead of the data in the game.
_1EgoSlayer
Newcomer
3 years ago
"Darth_DeVito;c-2368317" wrote:
"EgoSlayer;c-2368310" wrote:
"Ultra;c-2368308" wrote:
"EgoSlayer;c-2368300" wrote:
"Ultra;c-2368299" wrote:
"Darth_DeVito;c-2368281" wrote:
Looks like level 9 really does require "squads at or above relic 7", just like the description says. Level 4 already requires a full r5 team. At r3, the datacron can be equipped but is downgraded from level 4 to 3 so the last bonus doesn't apply. The same would happen with a level 9 DC on a squad that doesn't meet the all-r7 requirement.

So I guess we're supposed level a DC to 9 and reroll until we get that sweet JMK bonus, all the while believing we won't have to take Snips all the way to r7 because the Road Ahead said r3. Then GAC is about to start, the expensive DC turns out to be partially useless, sunk cost fallacy strikes again and we buy another relic pack. It's the little things.

target character needs to be r7 not entire squad, rest need to be r5 not r3

Is that official, or is that you guessing? Because it literally says the entire squad must be R7 for it to activate 'Activates on target character in squads at or above Relic 7'. In English that means the all characters must be R7 for it to activate on that target character.

So guessing then? Because the interface description and the Relic requirement indicator both contradict that statement.

The interface description says:

Which is pretty unambiguous.

I agree, it's 100% unambiguous. It only activates if the squad is at relic 7 it activates the character ability. What it should say is Activates on target character at or above Relic 7. The way it's written the 'at or above' section applies to the Squad (the preceding noun), not the character.

And in another UI faux pas, the relic indicator level on the Datacrons is for the entire squad needing to be at the indicated level for the effects - except for level 9 where the Relic indicatore isn't for the squad, but for a single character.
InyakSolomon88
3 years ago
this is probably one of those things CG should actually communicate with the community about since it appears to be as clear as mud.
spazz100g
3 years ago
Yeah can we get a for sure answer on this, was going to ask the exact same question, there’s lots of grey area in these for quite a bit of resources invested.
Darth_DeVito
3 years ago
Thanks everyone. I'm guessing it's impossible to attach a datacron to a squad unless the conditions are met? In that case it's going to answer itself. I was just worried about finding out mid-battle that the bonuses don't apply.
crzydroid
New Scout
3 years ago
"EgoSlayer;c-2368300" wrote:
"Ultra;c-2368299" wrote:
"Darth_DeVito;c-2368281" wrote:
Looks like level 9 really does require "squads at or above relic 7", just like the description says. Level 4 already requires a full r5 team. At r3, the datacron can be equipped but is downgraded from level 4 to 3 so the last bonus doesn't apply. The same would happen with a level 9 DC on a squad that doesn't meet the all-r7 requirement.

So I guess we're supposed level a DC to 9 and reroll until we get that sweet JMK bonus, all the while believing we won't have to take Snips all the way to r7 because the Road Ahead said r3. Then GAC is about to start, the expensive DC turns out to be partially useless, sunk cost fallacy strikes again and we buy another relic pack. It's the little things.

target character needs to be r7 not entire squad, rest need to be r5 not r3

Is that official, or is that you guessing? Because it literally says the entire squad must be R7 for it to activate 'Activates on target character in squads at or above Relic 7'. In English that means the all characters must be R7 for it to activate on that target character.

The road ahead said r5. So whether it's bugged from the RA or not, you shouldn't expect it to work at l9 with an r3 character, because that was never said anywhere.