Datacron Set 4 + Feedback Response Information [MEGA]

This post in a so much BULLSHIT. The large majority of players think datacrons are a poorly designed, poorly thought-out paywall that not only screws f2p but p2p players as well. Here is something that you can buy for a TEMPORARY advantage that will just vanish. It's pushed a BUNCH of my guildies out of the game and a bunch more are on edge. And this is a guild of like 7-8 mill average gp. CG is so full of shit if they are saying that the feedback for datacrons is positive.

datacrons are not fun and absolutely do not want them extended to pve, thanks.

"Darthwares;c-2378962" wrote:
datacrons are not fun and absolutely do not want them extended to pve, thanks.

Disagree here. Get rid of them in TW and GAC and move them to PvE. The complaints would melt away I'd guess.

"Ultra;c-2378840" wrote:

"ArdenPulsar;c-2378833" wrote:

"Ultra;c-2378829" wrote:

"Iy4oy4s;c-2378815" wrote:
A vast majority of people, that I’ve seen, here, Reddit and on YouTube all hate datacrons. Where the response to that?

They won't get rid of datacrons, they are here to stay

Instead of asking for the impossible, you should focus on, "okay, what can CG do for us, to make them tolerable and acceptable?"

If you gave feedback regarding that, you would've seen it this update, probably

If a good amount of the player base ignores them and doesn't use them like myself I can guarantee you they'll go away

Not really

lets assume the following

everyone but 10 players ignore it

- CG chooses to get rid of them
Nothing changes, everyone wasn't engaging except for 10 people, CG isn't making money out of datacrons

-CG chooses to keep them
CG is making a profit by having the 10 people spend on them

Even if no one but 10 people use it, CG is still making some amount of money vs no money so why would they get rid of it?

Wrong on that. The amount of money and time it takes to program the DC’s in and continuously edit and program new ones in will never result in a profit if only 10 people use it. Pretty simple stuff.

True though

Moving the reroll mats out of Cronquest to Territory Wars is the part which concerns me.

The TW reward structure already encourages sandbagging and concentrating datacron reroll mats there further incentivizes it.

The TW matchmaker is complete garbage, producing seemingly arbitrary matches even without sandbagging. The last thing you want to see when you are on a losing streak is a high GP opposing guild with low signups and a high win-loss ratio as your token "easy" match.

Upgrade and reroll mats should both continue to be available from both Cronquest and TW. That way all players have reasonable opportunities to access both.

And please do something about the TW matchmaker and reward structure. If you are seeing low participation in TW those are the likely reason why and moving datacron reroll mats there wont fix them.

The #1 problem with datacrons was them applying to GLs. That's not where they're needed. I heard this feedback presented loudly more than any other criticism levelled at datacrons. This #1 criticism was not addressed at all.

The #2 problem is how OP they are. OP datacrons trivialize other investments in the game and lead to frustrating experiences. Many of these frustrating experiences are related to #1, because the combo of OP datacrons and their use with GLs makes for a lousy experience. This criticism was also not addressed.

I don't have a problem with the temporary nature of datacrons, though I'm pretty sure those who do won't suddenly be satisfied that the timeframe was increased from 3 months to 4 months.

Also...

"I never really understood where I got materials for Datacrons, has that been made easier?”

That sounds so much like a planted question. Some companies do Q&A like that, where they generate their own feedback and questions and act like it was player-generated, when really they simply didn't want to deal with answering the hardball questions.

The criticisms CG responded too were trivial.

I suggested to my guildies to stick it out, wait the 3 months and see how CG adapted to the legitimate criticisms levelled at datacrons during the trial phase. Now I feel like I screwed those guildies out of 3 months of their life.

"Bruellhusten123;c-2378886" wrote:

That alone will make the next 3 months absolutely miserable. Take one of the worst ingame mechanics and multiply the pain.

Actually, they increased it to 4 months, because apparently that's something we wanted? Don't ask me who "we" are, because in all my interactions with players I've never heard a single one say the timeframe of datacrons needs to be longer.

I agree, dodge is already the most frustrating mechanic in these types of games. Amplifying it is garbage.

Only reason none of us have messed up merging a thread is because none of us have ever been in the position to merge a thread.

I'm confused as to why Datacrons keep being referred to as "fun", when the majority of the players on these forums, reddit forums, and other sources keep commenting on how NOT fun datacrons are, and how they're ruining the game for most of us?

CG can say that "their data suggests otherwise" all they want, but when actual player feedback is mostly negative and completely contradicting CG's standpoint on them, maybe said data shouldn't be used to determine whether datacrons are here to stay.

Your data may be showing that the majority of whale/kraken accounts are actively taking part in buying, leveling up, and using datacrons, but what your data doesn't show is why. Your data doesn't show that datacrons are being interacted with solely to remain relevant and competitive in the game. Your data doesn't show that F2P players are trying their best to buy and level a few datacrons a month, in an attempt to sort of, kind of, not really stay competitive as well, only to run into kraken accounts in GAC with 27 level 9 datacrons, compared to their 1 level 9, and 6 - 7 level 6 and belows. Your data doesn't show how much datacrons are being spoken of in a negative manner by whales and F2P players alike. Your data doesn't show how it's making this game unfun, and how most players would agree with this.

Forget your data, and listen to your playerbase.